Countdown to Elliot: Dallas Cowboys 2016 Offseason Thread

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Law always gets pressure, or did you forget 2014? He was the only player on defense that showed up in GB.
My dude you switching up the discussion. This wasn't about dude getting pressure. No I didn't forget about 2014 cause guess what until the playoffs dude didn't do jack shyt injury or not. The better question should be did you forget 2014 cause you acting like dude was a monster or like somebody said after your post he did something before Hardy came back. Like I said a few sacks don't change my overall view on things without Hardy (and the scheming other teams do for him) I'm not currently sure if this line would be even as bad as they were last year getting pressure.
 

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Chargers fans seem to think he's decent..idk can't say I've watched him

AFC West is not, and has not been a top heavy division on skilled players. There's something to be said about corners who ball out in that division and then come to teams where the spotlight is a little bit brighter, and the skilled position players are more talented, and they don't meet expectations.

Nnamdi Asomugha
Brandon Carr
Sean Smith, a pretty average corner parlayed his play with KC into a 40 million dollar deal.
Patrick Robinson - career scrub..had his best season where? San Diego

This isn't just coincidence to me.
 

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#WeWantZeke :smugfavre:

Luxury or necessity?

That's what the Dallas Cowboys have to ask themselves heading into the NFL draft.

NFL Network analyst Brian Baldinger recently said that he thinks the Cowboys could be in play to draft Elliott.

"I think [Elliott] might be the best overall player in the whole draft,"Baldinger said on NFL Network. "I don't think I'm overstating that. I just think his tape shows that. I thought when they could not figure out a way to keep DeMarco Murray last year, that this team was going to go down, and they did. They went from 12-4 to 4-12. Other things happened. However, I think with that offensive line and the way they want to play football -- nothing against what [Darren] McFadden did this year, but we know his injury history -- they need a stud at that position. That's what I think what their offensive success is predicated on."

Out of these 10 mock drafts, eight have the Cowboys taking a defensive player with the No. 4 overall pick. Joey Bosa and DeForest Buckner, both mentioned in the mock drafts, could immediately come in and provide the Cowboys with help on the pass rush, which they desperately need. The same could be said for Jalen Ramsey.

But what about taking running back Ezekiel Elliott at No. 4? Two mock drafts have that happening. While the Cowboys might not need a running back as bad as they do a defensive player, the thought of Elliott running behind the offensive line might be enticing to Jerry Jones.

Here's what SportsDay's Jon Machota recently said about the Cowboys' interest in drafting Elliott:

"I don't think it will happen. I just think there are some analysts who believe he's the fourth best player in this draft. The Cowboys are starved for defensive playmakers. Elliott seems more like a luxury item. I'd be shocked if the Cowboys took him. But Louis Riddikk told us yesterday on The Afternoon Show 103.3 FM that he'd be shocked if the Cowboys didn't take him. He just thinks with this O-line, it could be a lot like the 12-4 season."

Special contributor Bob Sturm profiled Elliott and said the following:

"He is a game-breaker and can get to top speed in the blink of an eye. Running out of that Urban Meyer spread, he is exclusively a shotgun back, but you see how he can use a turbo boost that puts him in the secondary in a blink. He also gets skinny through holes and is decisive in his reads. He changes directions well and with wiggle to lose guys. He dominates inside and outside as a back and runs with sub-4.5 speed and also the power you want from a guy who weighs 225. Then, he catches the ball out of the backfield with ease and can use that speed out on the edge. He will attack you in multiple ways. But, honestly, what makes him unique is that Ohio State asked him at times to be a lead blocker for others or a pass protector for his QB and almost without fail, he did it with maximum effort and proficiency."

Click here to read more from Sturm.

Rich Eisen, also with the NFL Network, recently said this of the Cowboys and Elliott:

"If you think Elliot is a LeVeon Bell type of talent, you think he can bring to you what Bell is bringing to the Steelers, and you've got Romo for two, three, maybe four more years, and you've got Dez Bryant, how do you not pull the trigger on Elliot, and put a star on the side of his helmet, and go to work, see what you can do, and win a championship in the window that you might have?"
 
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My dude you switching up the discussion. This wasn't about dude getting pressure. No I didn't forget about 2014 cause guess what until the playoffs dude didn't do jack shyt injury or not. The better question should be did you forget 2014 cause you acting like dude was a monster or like somebody said after your post he did something before Hardy came back. Like I said a few sacks don't change my overall view on things without Hardy (and the scheming other teams do for him) I'm not currently sure if this line would be even as bad as they were last year getting pressure.
Basically and with Lawrence the focal point of the Dline, he'll be seeing majority of the attention and we'll be gambling on someone else on the line to make plays.
 

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My dude you switching up the discussion. This wasn't about dude getting pressure. No I didn't forget about 2014 cause guess what until the playoffs dude didn't do jack shyt injury or not. The better question should be did you forget 2014 cause you acting like dude was a monster or like somebody said after your post he did something before Hardy came back. Like I said a few sacks don't change my overall view on things without Hardy (and the scheming other teams do for him) I'm not currently sure if this line would be even as bad as they were last year getting pressure.
He was coming back from a fractured foot and you're criticizing him for not turning it on until the most important time of the season?:mjlol: And since you like to point out Hardy drawing double teams, just who do you think was drawing attention until Hardy was eligible to play? I didn't switch up the discussion i just simply pointed out how people are not realizing how valuable D-Law is.
 

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He was coming back from a fractured foot and you're criticizing him for not turning it on until the most important time of the season?:mjlol: And since you like to point out Hardy drawing double teams, just who do you think was drawing attention until Hardy was eligible to play? I didn't switch up the discussion i just simply pointed out how people are not realizing how valuable D-Law is.
Nah smilies ain't going to save you. He didn't do shyt period outside of two games. That's the facts period. You out here being selective as fukk like you some chick that don't know shyt about football. You his fam or something? Who was drawing double teams before Hardy came back? Nobody seems to cosign your DLaw was the target of double teams stuff. He isn't that valuable not yet. Getting mesmerized by the late season numbers again smh. Why can't dude do this shyt for a whole damn season if he soo valuable? When he does that I might agree right now dude just aight.
 

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Don't think there's a player everyone can agree on. One person says they're good others say they're trash...besides Zeke. Only problem is value at 4. Pretty sure everyone would either be :blessed: or :ehh: if we end up with him.
Ramsey seem to be a :ehh: at least from most on here. Bosa might get the biggest :sadcam: on here
 

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Nah smilies ain't going to save you. He didn't do shyt period outside of two games. That's the facts period. You out here being selective as fukk like you some chick that don't know shyt about football. You his fam or something? Who was drawing double teams before Hardy came back? Nobody seems to cosign your DLaw was the target of double teams stuff. He isn't that valuable not yet. Getting mesmerized by the late season numbers again smh. Why can't dude do this shyt for a whole damn season if he soo valuable? When he does that I might agree right now dude just aight.
Fall back bruh, All i said was he's valuable and only an idiot would think he's not. You also seem to forget they switched his position last year, and he's now responsible for run support. You're the one getting all emotional over Hardy as if this D lives or dies with him. The real difference maker on our D is McClain, when he's in the hits are more violent.
 

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Don't think there's a player everyone can agree on. One person says they're good others say they're trash...besides Zeke. Only problem is value at 4. Pretty sure everyone would either be :blessed: or :ehh: if we end up with him.
Ramsey seem to be a :ehh: at least from most on here. Bosa might get the biggest :sadcam: on here
Everyone would die if we drafted Bosa. I don't like the idea of Zeke at 4 but if you could get someone like Billings to jump start the second round it kinda washes out.

Even if we were to get a RB like Prosise later in the draft, I think we come out good.

Ramsey
Billings/A'Shawn Robinson/ect...
Prosise
Prescott/C.Jones

talk about a draft :whoo:
 
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