Coulter: One weird trick to raise minimum wage

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In response to the Democrats' minimum wage proposal, Republicans should introduce a bill ending both legal and illegal immigration until the minimum wage rises naturally to $14 an hour.
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This is bullshyt, because wages haven't kept up with productivity across all sectors. Teachers, engineers, Nurses wages haven't kept up with the gains in productivity. But blame illegals breh.

:snoop: she isnt talking about illegal immigration
 

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Wage vs gains in productivity affects everyone. The gains from increased productivity go to Capital owners and not to wage earners- across the board. From low skill workers to college educated professionals.

It is often thought that college graduates can escape these unfortunate wage trends. But college graduates — hit by the bursting of the tech bubble in the late 1990s and then by the deep recession — have been hit hard, too. Seventy percent of the nation’s college grads have had their after-inflation hourly wages decline since 2000, according to the Economic Policy Institute, with the typical graduate experiencing a 3.1 percent decline.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/s...ductivity-climbs-but-wages-stagnate.html?_r=0

Keep falling for tricks pitting wage earners from one class vs wage earners from another class brehs.
 

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Until the majority decides that the folks who work at the company is more productive than the folks in the boardroom, we will continue to settle for our pittance. Capital owners arent the problem, its the labor who believes he is the capital owner thats causing all the confusion. Folks would rather have a 401k than have a pension. Thats the problem.
 

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Wage vs gains in productivity affects everyone. The gains from increased productivity go to Capital owners and not to wage earners- across the board. From low skill workers to college educated professionals.



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/s...ductivity-climbs-but-wages-stagnate.html?_r=0

Keep falling for tricks pitting wage earners from one class vs wage earners from another class brehs.

i dont know how anything in that article is counterpoint to the coulter article

what logical reason is there to think that with the american worker under wage pressure it would be a good idea to bring in millions more legal immigrants on top of legalizing 11 million illegal immigrants?

explain to me how you are going to address inequality while also advocating bringing in millions of new workers? unless im missing something wouldn't the law of supply and demand also increase wage pressure on the worker if you are bringing in millions of new workers into the system
 

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i dont know how anything in that article is counterpoint to the coulter article

what logical reason is there to think that with the american worker under wage pressure it would be a good idea to bring in millions more legal immigrants on top of legalizing 11 million illegal immigrants?

explain to me how you are going to address inequality while also advocating bringing in millions of new workers? unless im missing something wouldn't the law of supply and demand also increase wage pressure on the worker if you are bringing in millions of new workers into the system

The problem is, this is not an immigration issue. It's a structural issue in relation to wealth distribution. If low wages were a product of immigration as the article claims, then depressed wages vs productivity gains would only affect low skill positions. This is not the case. What we have are low wages when compared to gains in productivity across the board regardless of skill level or education of the workers.

Blaming immigration is myopic at best and reeks of anti immigration sentiment at the worst.
 

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The problem is, this is not an immigration issue. It's a structural issue in relation to wealth distribution. If low wages were a product of immigration as the article claims, then depressed wages vs productivity gains would only affect low skill positions. This is not the case. What we have are low wages when compared to gains in productivity across the board regardless of skill level or education of the workers.

Blaming immigration is myopic at best and reeks of anti immigration sentiment at the worst.

wages have many factors, not just one, the number of immigrants is one of the factors, its intellectually dishonest and just plain stupid to NOT study how immigration effects wages, the notion that you shouldn't is just politics

and immigration has been shown to effect the wages of low skilled workers, specifically, that has been documented

why are people that are concerned inequality trying to ignore a factor that has been shown to decrease wages of low wage workers

why are liberals and corporations trying to convince everybody that immigration has nothing to do with wages when it clearly does have an impact, hmmmmmmmmm
 

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wages have many factors, not just one, the number of immigrants is one of the factors, its intellectually dishonest and just plain stupid to NOT study how immigration effects wages, the notion that you shouldn't is just politics

and immigration has been shown to effect the wages of low skilled workers, specifically, that has been documented

why are people that are concerned inequality trying to ignore a factor that has been shown to decrease wages of low wage workers

why are liberals and corporations trying to convince everybody that immigration has nothing to do with wages when it clearly does have an impact, hmmmmmmmmm

Look it here fukk boi, The gist of the article that you posted was claiming that immigration was depressing wages because of the influx of low skilled immigrants. I am asking if that was the case, then why are wages stagnant across the board including wages for highly educated and highly skilled workers?
 
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