Could a top NYC rapper bring that old NYC/East Coast sound back like Kendrick did or are niccas too gone riverdancing to UK/90's sample drill beats?

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Why can’t the young NY producers of today making sample drill beats be seen in the same light or as modernizing the sound?
I listen to the production on GNX and it sounds traditionally regional, yet still modern.

NY Drill beats are infusing too many sounds that don't even come from NY.
 

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Why can’t the young NY producers of today making sample drill beats be seen in the same light or as modernizing the sound?
Because it’s not boom bap enough for these dudes
 

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What do u mean here?

What makes LA and the Bay any more self sufficient than us

Cash Cobain is much more popping than any of them artist on Kendrick’s album :mjtf:

I hate when NY posters be on this self deprecating shyt and dikk sucking other regions :dahell:

We have our own shyt as much as anyone.
I'm not even gonna compare Cash to the dudes on GNX, but the Pop Out showed you they have a bunch of rappers who if nothing else, are gonna be okay because Cali got em. Who's the NY equivalent to say JasonMartin? Dom Kennedy? Jay Worthy? Larry June? We have guys we HOPE get there. I love Dave East, but even when he was at his peak, you had dudes in Harlem questioning whether he was even from there instead of just supporting him. Even a dude like Capella Grey who had a hit on his hands couldn't sustain that shyt. Kenzo B, Dougie B, B Lovee, all the Bronx drill rappers not named Ice Spice. None of them have pivoted while not even being good enough to keep our attention locally. I couldn't believe it til I saw it myself. If I said Sexyy Red of all people has the city on smash the last couple of years among all these youngins (especially the dudes for some reason), it would be hard for you to argue against it. Sexyy Red!
 

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Couple things.

First, drill ain't boom bap. Drill only f*cked up the "NY sound" even more. To the point where the drill crack babies don’t even know how wack they are and have no reference to what came before, so there's no standard for them to follow so they can make dope sh*t that will last longer than a week.

Secondly, NYC needs its OG's to get back to being proud to lead and not follow. NYC fell off when it started biting other regions. There's a ridiculous amount of dope talent in the city, but they're all either overlooked or too scared to be themselves now. If that ever gets fixed, NYC would be a problem again. But not when we're still mentioning wack sh*t like drill in these talks, and watching our vets abandon the city for other regions and following what they're doing.

State-wise, Griselda is the best sh*t going for NY right now. They understand what it's supposed to sound like.
 

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The sound that Kendrick is brining back isn’t even equivalent to boom bap in terms of legacy and I say that as a west coast dude. Kendrick’s basically bringing back a re-hash of hyphy that already got brought back 10 years ago but LA put their own elements in back then so it’s like a blend. NY needs to have a Kendrick or Cole type rapper to make the boom bap thing work and they don’t have that
 

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I'm not even gonna compare Cash to the dudes on GNX, but the Pop Out showed you they have a bunch of rappers who if nothing else, are gonna be okay because Cali got em. Who's the NY equivalent to say JasonMartin? Dom Kennedy? Jay Worthy? Larry June? We have guys we HOPE get there. I love Dave East, but even when he was at his peak, you had dudes in Harlem questioning whether he was even from there instead of just supporting him. Even a dude like Capella Grey who had a hit on his hands couldn't sustain that shyt. Kenzo B, Dougie B, B Lovee, all the Bronx drill rappers not named Ice Spice. None of them have pivoted while not even being good enough to keep our attention locally. I couldn't believe it til I saw it myself. If I said Sexyy Red of all people has the city on smash the last couple of years among all these youngins (especially the dudes for some reason), it would be hard for you to argue against it. Sexyy Red!
You’re comparing new drill rappers to modern Cali scene OG’s dudes that came out in the blog era and have sustained underground careers. Big difference between Dom Kennedy and these new LA rappers.

Our equivalents to those guys are Roc Marciano, Action Bronson, Smoke DZA, Skyzoo, Joey Badass rappers like that

As for Dave East, dudes been in the game for 10 years he’s established he’s one of those guys. He’s good for life off his smoke shop on 145th and he has his demographic of listeners in the city. He’s independent now and he got the Wu show. He’s good off New York support. The warehouse workers will keep supporting East. :lolbron:
 
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The sound that Kendrick is brining back isn’t even equivalent to boom bap in terms of legacy and I say that as a west coast dude. Kendrick’s basically bringing back a re-hash of hyphy that already got brought back 10 years ago but LA put their own elements in back then so it’s like a blend. NY needs to have a Kendrick or Cole type rapper to make the boom bap thing work and they don’t have that
So what would the NY equivalent be? Soul samples? Swiss Beatz / Alch type beats/Harry Fraud type with the horns?
 

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So what would the NY equivalent be? Soul samples? Swiss Beatz / Alch type beats/Harry Fraud type with the horns?
I can’t really think of a sound NY had in the the last 10-15 years that made me automatically go this is some NY shyt. I guess Harry would the closest but I’m an outsider speaking on it, first thing I think of with Harry was the stuff he did with Currensy
 
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