Cory Booker and the Hard Right's Colonization of Black Politics

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shocking to see who hate unions here.

public unions. Generally those who can think logically see the damage they've caused. But logic in this forum isnt the norm.

Speaking of which, how does the teachers union benefit the students?
 

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The beef with unions is hilarious. I guess if you can't have it, we all can't have it.

Trip kinda touched on it but they have no accountability for their members. The teacher gets tenure and is practically impossible to fire. You have a bunch of terrible teachers that just get shuffled around. It's not that I hate the idea of a union.
 

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That nikka is gonna landslide victory today, blackking predicts. I know wayyyyyy too many people throwing that support behind him. There are hardly any legitamate black people in politics of media that aren't pro Cory. liberal and conservative cac are gonna go :whew:

"We have us a boy on the team that the nigras aren't even gonna complain about. "
 

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The author makes some very valid observations about the Democratic Party but doesn't offer any suggestions or solutions...I'm not sure exactly what he's advocating we do about this state of affairs.

Should black voters start voting 3rd party? Stay home on election day? Create their own black political party?
I used to go :childplease: at any of those ideas.....



But fukk it. We clearly aren't taken seriously anyway.... It would mean something if we supported with unity a 3rd party. Doesn't have to be a black person or problack person... just a person who isn't shytting in our mouth as usual. ntm, liberal white people are followers - i think they would follow suit if millions of us supported a 3rd party who was white or Hispanic.

a real black man (for lack of better phrase) could never get elected conservative of liberal.... to be real.
 

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Trip kinda touched on it but they have no accountability for their members. The teacher gets tenure and is practically impossible to fire. You have a bunch of terrible teachers that just get shuffled around. It's not that I hate the idea of a union.

make broad generalizing statements, brehs
 

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this is a good quote in the article

the rock and foundation of the US left was in New Orleans, Detroit, Newark, St. Louis, Washington DC and other black dominated cities.

the question must be asked, what is the state of those cities? what have black people gotten from being the bedrock of leftism? nothing

maybe black people need to stop being the bedrock of the left and explore different and new ideas, instead of looking at policies that spread wealth maybe we need to look at policies that create wealth
 
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After all this time I see no reason to believe that politicians of any stripe (blue, red or green) are going to make a serious dent on solving the challenges of urban poverty and crime. The way our political system works, politicians are completely beholden to money and corporations have the $$$.

Corporate power and wealth is so massive that politicians who hope to survive have no choice but to take some of the cash. The good ones are just choosing from the lesser of evils.

Most of the change has to happen from the bottom up. Not top down. Individuals making decisions to tutor children, mentor, teach each other financial literacy and healthy eating/medical habits. I think this requires an attitude change in our community. People with means and skills have to be willing to put the work in to help others and people without means have to be willing to accept the help. My two cents anyway.
 
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stupid article that wrongly conflates "right wing" politics with "corporatist" agendas, the two of them being very dissimilar in the context of contemporary american politics. the "right wing" in america is almost singularly focused on pushing a religious-based platform of fundamentalist christianity. booker is not a fundamentalist christian, he's not anti-choice, he supports reproductive access for women, he is not a climate change denier, and his arguments are largely liberal but tinged with slight corporate leanings - not far removed from what we've seen of most democrats.

btw, i don't support booker, but i don't agree with this article, either.
 

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this is a good quote in the article

the question must be asked, what is the state of those cities? what have black people gotten from being the bedrock of leftism? nothing

maybe black people need to stop being the bedrock of the left and explore different and new ideas, instead of looking at policies that spread wealth maybe we need to look at policies that create wealth

The operative word is "was," and furthermore, the quote refers to the electorate, not to the politicians. People love to talk about Detroit as an example of liberal failure, for example, but that place has almost no social safety nets in place whatsoever, even less than some mostly-conservative cities, so those kinds of arguments are inaccurate.
 

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stupid article that wrongly conflates "right wing" politics with "corporatist" agendas, the two of them being very dissimilar in the context of contemporary american politics. the "right wing" in america is almost singularly focused on pushing a religious-based platform of fundamentalist christianity. booker is not a fundamentalist christian, he's not anti-choice, he supports reproductive access for women, he is not a climate change denier, and his arguments are largely liberal but tinged with slight corporate leanings - not far removed from what we've seen of most democrats.

btw, i don't support booker, but i don't agree with this article, either.

I agree that the article was trying to paint booker, obama, et al as right wing puppets but I did find it interesting how much support Booker received from politically right wing organizations. It was at least interesting in that regard. But then again, their choice was Cory Booker or Sharpe James. Of course conservatives would throw money at Cory. Was he not supposed to take it?
 

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The operative word is "was," and furthermore, the quote refers to the electorate, not to the politicians. People love to talk about Detroit as an example of liberal failure, for example, but that place has almost no social safety nets in place whatsoever, even less than some mostly-conservative cities, so those kinds of arguments are inaccurate.

i dont see what the difference is

is and was would still be correct, black people are the cornerstone of the left and they have been since the 60's, without black support the democratic party and liberal politicians would collapse

im not sure what the difference is between the electorate and the politician, the politicians elected in black cities support the liberal agenda and liberal policies, so i think its complete fair to use then to judge the impact of leftist politics

at the end of the day we have to assess the effectiveness of politicians, before booker there was sharpe james, who was a "real black man" (whatever the fuk that means) who was a democrat, liberal and implemented liberal ideas and same goes for detroit and DC, they were lead by real black men with liberal views

at the end of the day if we want to move forward we have to asses whether we want to double down on liberal leftist policies in black cities or do we want to look at other ideas

im not sure what social safety net you are talking about or not talking about, detroit has the same federal and state social safety net that any other city has, it has public housing, food stamps, section, headstart etc, any local social programs have to be funded locally so the question is where do leftists in detroit believe the money should come from to create a local safety net

if you have a mayor who has a philosophy that his job is to spread wealth, were is the actual wealth coming from? detroit is what happens when liberals run out of wealth to spread
 

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