Coronavirus Thread: Worldwide Pandemic
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Have you not seen the convo brehs been having for the past 2 pages?!receipts
@New Jeruzalem Journalist @Pressure yall wanna give him a refresher?
Hood Critic
The Power Circle
100k new cases every 2-3 days globally
Possibly, but the board is littered with post insinuating its the case now, and its not.
Right now, if I or a loved one gets ill, i dont want Scandinavian style healthcare, or french healthcare, or UK style healthcare.
I want American care.
Sweden:
121 Cases which had an outcome:
16 (13%)Recovered / Discharged
105 (87%)Deaths
Norway:
26 Cases which had an outcome:
7 (27%) Recovered / Discharged
19 (73%) Deaths
U.K.
894 Cases which had an outcome:
135 (15%) Recovered / Discharged
759 (85%) Deaths
Sort the chart by deaths per a million... JesusCoronavirus Update (Live): 601,238 Cases and 27,432 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer
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levitate
I love you, you know.
The American healthcare system is doing a much better job than the systems progressives opine for.
Coronavirus Update (Live): 598,032 Cases and 27,371 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer
You’re conflating quality of care and cost of care.
We certainly have the best quality of care. It’s the astronomical cost of care that’s the issue. Particularly given low federal minimum wage, stagnant wages, rising cost of everything, etc...
The primary issue is simply that low-cost, high-quality health care is fundamentally incompatible with a capitalist-driven healthcare market. How can you have low-cost if distributors are allowed to charge $1000 for a single aspirin (exaggeration, but still...)
Coronavirus Update (Live): 598,032 Cases and 27,371 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer
I guess that means according to your chart it's Nigeria and India that lead the world in healthcare efficacy.
Using that chart to back that claim is stupid-ignorant on so many levels...can you go ahead and tell me all the objections you already knew about but posted anyway, so I only have to educate you on the ones you were actually ignorant of?
Never heard anyone say they "want Nigerian style healthcare", or "its working in Nigeria"...I guess that means according to your chart it's Nigeria and India that lead the world in healthcare efficacy.
Using that chart to back that claim is stupid-ignorant on so many levels...can you go ahead and tell me all the objections you already knew about but posted anyway, so I only have to educate you on the ones you were actually ignorant of?
Never even looked at their system.Just comparing the systems referenced during the primary debates.
Anywho,
How is the American system not doing a great job of preserving life right now, while tackling the highest number of infected?
Italy has actually only been putting up 600+ death tolls for 8 days, it only feels like longer cause all this shyt moving in slow motion. No one really has any idea how long it will last - it depends on a ton, including how much it spreads through the parts of the country that are relatively unaffected so far. Their daily new cases haven't dropped yet.That's human extinction levels. How long has Italy been putting up, in death tolls ranging from over 700 per day? 3 weeks already? Cause I don't see this going down for another 2 months......
Possibly, but the board is littered with post insinuating its the case now, and its not.
Right now, if I or a loved one gets ill, i dont want Scandinavian style healthcare, or french healthcare, or UK style healthcare.
I want American care.
Sweden:
121 Cases which had an outcome:
16 (13%)Recovered / Discharged
105 (87%)Deaths
Norway:
26 Cases which had an outcome:
7 (27%) Recovered / Discharged
19 (73%) Deaths
U.K.
894 Cases which had an outcome:
135 (15%) Recovered / Discharged
759 (85%) Deaths
By that measure Spain, France, Germany, Iran, etc. are doing MUCH better than the USA in outcome ratios and they have much larger sample sizes.
You're just grabbing stats at random, even if you have to use tiny-ass sample sizes to do it, and posting a few country comparisons that fit your narrative. If you made a full list in order you'd see the USA looks terrible by all the metrics you've been using. Not that it matters because at this point in the curves using those metrics is so stupid as to be almost meaningless.
Who claimed America was doing the best?By that measure Spain, France, Germany, Iran, etc. are doing MUCH better than the USA in outcome ratios and they have much larger sample sizes.
You're just grabbing stats at random that fit your narrative, even if you have to use tiny-ass sample sizes to do it, and posting a few country comparisons at random. If you made a full list in order you'd see the USA looks terrible by all the metrics you've been using. Not that it matters because at this point in the curves using those metrics is so stupid as to be almost meaningless.
I said, our system is doing a great job of preserving life... and i later drew a comparison to the Scandinavian systems progressives often site when pushing M4A as superior.
Explain how I'm wrong/misguided in believing our system is performing well? All things
considered.
Edit: if HL posters are to be believed U.S. numbers are actually much better because we have inadequate testing, and the number of infected is actually much much higher in ratio to deaths.
Again, thats if HL posters are to be believed.
It is a full list...
We look terrible to you?
TheGodling
Los Ingobernables de Sala de Cine
So investigation in a Dutch hospital found that 7 of its employees who were tested positive actually showcased symptoms before the arrival of the first "official" Corona patient.
In other words, this shyt was there already.
In other words, this shyt was there already.
Because comparing deaths/population is completely meaningless when everyone is at different points in the epidemic curve. Our deaths are accelerating rapidly while other countries already started that acceleration well before we did.Who claimed America was doing the best?
I said, our system is doing a great job of preserving life... and i later drew a comparison to the Scandinavian systems progressives often site when pushing M4A as superior.
Explain how I'm wrong/misguided in believing our system is performing well?
And comparing deaths to recoveries is totally meaningless when every country has completely different standards for who is tested and who is not and for reporting who is recovered and who is not. Denmark had their first case over a month ago yet only lists one recovery - you seriously think everyone in Denmark who got it has remained sick for five weeks and zero people are recovering? You really think out of 2,000 people who caught it in Denmark there wasn't a single mild case that went away on its own besides that "1" guy, not to mention hospitalized cases that got better? Or that they just have different hospitalization and reporting standards?
USA:
4229 Cases which had an outcome:
2525 (60%)Recovered / Discharged
1704 (40%)Deaths
France
7695 Cases which had an outcome:
5700 (74%) Recovered / Discharged
1995 (26%) Deaths
Iran
13511 Cases which had an outcome:
11133 (82%) Recovered / Discharged
2378 (18%) Deaths
Germany
7053 Cases which had an outcome:
6658 (94%) Recovered / Discharged
395 (6%) Deaths
South Korea
4955 Cases which had an outcome:
4811 (97%) Recovered / Discharged
144 (3%) Deaths
You really wanna play that dumb and claim to me that's showing a meaningful evaluation of health care system competence right there? That the USA can only save 60% of it's patients but Germany/South Korea can save 95%? You're taking that at face value?
And I used countries with real sample sizes, even if the data is still mostly meaningless at this point. You used countries with numbers like "16" and "7", some of the most meaningless sample sizes imaginable.
Poetical Poltergeist
Precise and cold hearted
Compared to other hosts that was light work.