Cornel West reacts to Obama's remarks on GZ verdict. Calls Obama a hypocrite and global GZ.

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Stop deflecting. Anyone is allowed to criticize Obama, its a free fukking country. Stop changing the subject. Again, what did Professor West say that was so untrue? Again, you come off as a mindless Obamabot with your posts breh.

First of all, check your tone and get off my dikk. I respect people who actually do shyt for the black community and are willing to put themselves out there and if they want to say how obama has come up short then I have no problem. What has west done?
 

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Him and tavis smiley are such bitter as bytches it's almost as if irregardless of what obama does you know what their reaction will be. And it won't be positive. If I know what you are going to say before you say it, then you no longer have a viable opinion. You become a caricature.


It bothers me that tavis smiley and west keep getting airtime when they contribute nothing positive to the dialog.

That's exactly how I felt when I watched that shyt. shyt was pretty pathetic to watch, his whole tone was of a bitter ass bytch. That's not to say he wasn't speaking the truth it was just the way in which he went about it.
 

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That's exactly how I felt when I watched that shyt. shyt was pretty pathetic to watch, his whole tone was of a bitter ass bytch. That's not to say he wasn't speaking the truth it was just the way in which he went about it.
He still mad that Obama came to see him about his bytchassness. Bitter beer face ass nikkas

[url="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/17/cornel-west-obama-cussed-me-out-for-attacking-his-policies/"] Cornel West: Obama ‘cussed me out’ for attacking his policies | The Raw Story[/URL]
 

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i havent had a chance to watch it yet, but in terms of drone strikes, whatever cornel said is probably true. UAVs went from doing recon and close air support to outright executing targets.

that being said, he and tavis are also bitter as hell, LOL.
 

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I remember when Melissa Harris-Perry destroyed Cornell's hypocrtical ass. :wow:
Daily Kos: Professor Harris-Perry DESTROYS Cornel West
Take for example West's ad hominem attack on the President’s racial identity.
“I think my dear brother Barack Obama has a certain fear of free black men… It’s understandable. As a young brother who grows up in a white context, brilliant African father, he’s always had to fear being a white man with black skin. All he has known culturally is white. He is just as human as I am, but that is his cultural formation.”

This comment is utter hilarity coming from Cornel West who has spent the bulk of his adulthood living in those deeply rooted, culturally rich, historically important black communities of Cambridge, MA and Princeton, NJ. And it is hard to see his claim that Obama is “most comfortable with upper middle-class white and Jewish men who consider themselves very smart, very savvy and very effective in getting what they” as anything other than a classic projection of his own comfortably ensconced life at Harvard and Princeton Universities. Harvard and Princeton are not places that are particularly noted for their liberating history for black men.

As tenured professors Cornel West and I are not meaningfully accountable, no matter what our love, commitment, or self-delusions tell us. President Obama, as an elected official, can, in fact, be voted out of his job. We can’t. That is a difference that matters. As West derides the President’s economic policies he remains silent on his friend Tavis Smiley’s relationship with Wal-Mart, Wells Fargo, and McDonald's—all corporations whose invasive and predatory actions in poor and black communities have been the target of progressive organizing for decades. I have never heard him take Tavis Smiley to task for helping convince black Americans to enter into predatory mortgages. I’ve never heard him ask whether Tavis' decision to publish R. Kelley’s memoirs might be a less than progressive decision. He doesn’t hold Tavis accountable because Tavis is his friend and he is loyal. I respect that, but I also know that if he were in elected office the could not get off so easily.
 
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I remember when Melissa Harris-Perry destroyed Cornell's hypocrtical ass. :wow:
Daily Kos: Professor Harris-Perry DESTROYS Cornel West

Take for example West's ad hominem attack on the President’s racial identity.
“I think my dear brother Barack Obama has a certain fear of free black men… It’s understandable. As a young brother who grows up in a white context, brilliant African father, he’s always had to fear being a white man with black skin. All he has known culturally is white. He is just as human as I am, but that is his cultural formation.”

This comment is utter hilarity coming from Cornel West who has spent the bulk of his adulthood living in those deeply rooted, culturally rich, historically important black communities of Cambridge, MA and Princeton, NJ. And it is hard to see his claim that Obama is “most comfortable with upper middle-class white and Jewish men who consider themselves very smart, very savvy and very effective in getting what they” as anything other than a classic projection of his own comfortably ensconced life at Harvard and Princeton Universities. Harvard and Princeton are not places that are particularly noted for their liberating history for black men.

As tenured professors Cornel West and I are not meaningfully accountable, no matter what our love, commitment, or self-delusions tell us. President Obama, as an elected official, can, in fact, be voted out of his job. We can’t. That is a difference that matters. As West derides the President’s economic policies he remains silent on his friend Tavis Smiley’s relationship with Wal-Mart, Wells Fargo, and McDonald's—all corporations whose invasive and predatory actions in poor and black communities have been the target of progressive organizing for decades. I have never heard him take Tavis Smiley to task for helping convince black Americans to enter into predatory mortgages. I’ve never heard him ask whether Tavis' decision to publish R. Kelley’s memoirs might be a less than progressive decision. He doesn’t hold Tavis accountable because Tavis is his friend and he is loyal. I respect that, but I also know that if he were in elected office the could not get off so easily.


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1.) Are you saying his stimulus bill which is the first thing he did in office didn't help tons of blacks and lower income people? Millions of people? Can you honestly say that?

2.) Cornell been teaching white kids at Ivy league schools for years, not in them streets like Obama, or Sharpton ever were.

1. Show me where it helped? Other than more food stamps and government assistance.
2. Right....
Cornell Prison Education Program | Prison Studies Project - Teaching, Research and Outreach

Sharpton is a FBI informant...:comeon:
 

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First of all, check your tone and get off my dikk. I respect people who actually do shyt for the black community and are willing to put themselves out there and if they want to say how obama has come up short then I have no problem. What has west done?

You ask what west has done... beside being an accomplished author and one of worlds most respected intellectuals you could simply go to his wikipedia page see that he has indeed been in these streets for a very long time. Here is an excerpt.

West has been involved with such projects as the Million Man March and Russell Simmons's Hip-Hop Summit, and worked with such public figures as Louis Farrakhan[10] and Al Sharpton, whose 2004 presidential campaign West advised.[48]In 2000, West worked as a senior advisor to Democratic presidential candidate Bill Bradley. When Bradley lost in the primaries, West became a prominent endorser of Ralph Nader, even speaking at some Nader rallies. Some Greens sought to draft West to run as a presidential candidate in 2004. West declined, citing his active participation in the Al Sharpton campaign. West, along with other prominent Nader 2000 supporters, signed the "Vote to Stop Bush" statement urging progressive voters in swing states to vote for John Kerry, despite strong disagreements with many of Kerry's policies.[49]In April 2002 West and Rabbi Michael Lerner performed civil disobedience by sitting in the street in front of the U.S. State Department "in solidarity with suffering Palestinian and Israeli brothers and sisters." West said, "We must keep in touch with the humanity of both sides."[50][51] In May 2007 West joined a demonstration against "injustices faced by the Palestinian people resulting from the Israeli occupation" and "to bring attention to this 40-year travesty of justice". In 2011, West called on the University of Arizona to divest from companies profiting from the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian Territories.[52]West also serves as co-chair of the Tikkun Community. He co-chaired the National Parenting Organization's Task Force on Parent Empowerment and participated in President Clinton's National Conversation on Race. He has publicly endorsed In These Times magazine by calling it: "The most creative and challenging news magazine of the American left". He is also a contributing editor for Sojourners Magazine.West supports People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) in its Kentucky Fried Cruelty campaign, aimed at eliminating what PETA describes as KFC's inhumane treatment of chickens. West is quoted on PETA flyers: "Although most people don't know chickens as well as they know cats and dogs, chickens are interesting individuals with personalities and interests every bit as developed as the dogs and cats with whom many of us share our lives."In 2008, West contributed his insights on the current global issue of modernized slavery andhuman trafficking in the rockumentary Call+Response.[53] West is a member of the Campaign for Peace and Democracy.In 2011, West addressed his frustration about some critics of the Occupy Wall Street, who remark about the movement's lack of a clear and unified message. West replied by saying:It’s impossible to translate the issue of the greed of Wall Street into one demand, or two demands. We’re talking about a democratic awakening...you’re talking about raising political consciousness so it spills over all parts of the country, so people can begin to see what’s going on through a set of different lens, and then you begin to highlight what the more detailed demands would be. Because in the end we’re really talking about what Martin King would call a revolution: A transfer of power fromoligarchs to everyday people of all colors. And that is a step by step process.[54]On October 16, 2011, West was in Washington, D.C., participating in the Occupy D.C. protests on the steps of the Supreme Court over the court's decision in the Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission case the previous year.[55] Five days later, he was arrested during an Occupy Wall Street protest in Harlem against the New York Police Department's stop and friskpolicy.[56]
 

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does all criticism fall into the category of "bitter" now?

why dont people address the issues raised by dr west instead of blindly defending obama for the sole reason that he is a black man in a white dominated arena

Nobody can reasonably dispute what he says so their only option is ad hominem attacks on his character...

He said the same things when Bush was in office..If the diplomatic policy hasn't changed, why should the critique?
 

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just because something is "true", doesn't necessarily make it appropriate, or relevant
 

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Personally I hold Obama the Don to a higher standard because he knows good and goddamn well we're here at the-coli.com discussing this shyt, he knows good and goddamn well what nikkaz are talkin about at the barber shop, he knows this shyt, he knows we dont trust government and exactly why and he knows we're justified in our distrust. He knows our perspective quite well and chooses to marginalize it. Like when he threw the Rev under the bus, he had a perfect opportunity to explain to a broader audience what the good Rev Wright was saying, and why it was legit....

I cant take someone not standing up and having a spine. Obama shoulda listened to more Pac. Die like a man, not live like a coward.
 
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just because something is "true", doesn't necessarily make it appropriate, or relevant

Why did you put the word true in quotations?

Something that is a state of matter or actual existence is always appropriate and relevant when questioning whether or not one is a hypocrite. Whether you want to hear it or not is up to you. Or maybe you don't want to have this discussion at all, which is your right. But ad hominem is usually the crutch of one that doesn't have a leg to stand on.
 
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