Cornel West reacts to Obama's remarks on GZ verdict. Calls Obama a hypocrite and global GZ.

[intilectual recipricol]

Let me ask you this. Do you think Obama has done anything good since coming into office?

Yes, I do. I also think a lot of what he wants to do is thwarted by openly racist and hostile right wingers. All the more reason to not marginalize voices that speak out against the very thing making his job impossible. Why doesnt he just pull his job up by the bootstraps and get shyt done?

 

[bzb]

Tell me about the "enemy"

you seem to think it's obama. with all the obvious harm he personally orchestrates.

 

[OG Talk]

you seem to think it's obama. with all the obvious harm he personally orchestrates.

Answer the question



Who is the enemy?

 

[Born2BKing]

Yes, I do. I also think a lot of what he wants to do is thwarted by openly racist and hostile right wingers. All the more reason to not marginalize voices that speak out against the very thing making his job impossible. Why doesnt he just pull his job up by the bootstraps and get shyt done?

So you're saying Obama can bypass the senate and congress and do whatever he wants? Obama the magical negro huh. You know when people ask me how I'm doing, I also say "can't complain but if I could, why would I? What is that gonna change?" It's about action bruh, I have been able to be successful as a black man by working my but off. If people want changes then lets start protesting and fighting! fukk sitting around talking about a damn Obama. You know why Mexicans and gays are getting attention for their plights? Because they are doing this. I know the protests will end after Zimmerman gets convicted or the outrage dies down. Will there be protests and outrage over the justice system overall and employment discrimination? Hell naw, doubt it.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

So you're saying Obama can bypass the senate and congress and do whatever he wants? Obama the magical negro huh. You know when people ask me how I'm doing, I also say "can't complain but if I could, why would I? What is that gonna change?" It's about action bruh, I have been able to be successful as a black man by working my but off. If people want changes then lets start protesting and fighting! fukk sitting around talking about a damn Obama. You know why Mexicans and gays are getting attention for the plights? Because they are doing this.

Damn, why do I have to walk you through everything? I am saying HE CANT bypass congress. And he cant get shyt done because it is full of racist muthafukkaz who only want him to be a failure. And my point is, against those odds no matter how good he is at his job, he cant get shyt accomplished. Its something WE ALL KNOW. So, how do you fight against that? He cant call a spade a spade because he already denounced that voice in order to get to office. Aint no bootstrap pulling for him.

You cannot compare Mexicans or Gays to blacks, they stood on the shoulders of giants, and they havent been systematically destroyed by the US the way blacks have been. You want us to start fighting... fighting what? The muthafukkaz talking about fighting shyt were pushed to the margins of society by Obama. The fukk can Obama fight for now that he marginalized the voices stating what the goddamn problem is.

Youre a lost soul mayne.

 

[Crucial]

They think that militant shyt sounds cool.

Let Wright and Farrakhan talk all that bullshyt.Meanwhile Obama actually has a job to do.

Exactly. These guys don't seem to realize that America was founded and built under white rule. That mentality has been maintained by brutally dealing with any minority that speaks against it. They talk like they expect all black people to be like Malcom X. Like all black people should be militant.

Do they not realize that a large number of "successful" black people have merely been ALLOWED to be rich and successful? Do they really think Oprah, Jay-Z, Beyonce, Colin Powel, Condeleeza Rice, OBAMA, would have risen to such levels by talking about the "white devil"?

Not everybody is a Huey Newton, but people like Newton, fought and died so that ALL black people can succeed on their own terms, and show that we are not to be always lumped into one group.

 

[Born2BKing]

Damn, why do I have to walk you through everything? I am saying HE CANT bypass congress. And he cant get shyt done because it is full of racist muthafukkaz who only want him to be a failure. And my point is, against those odds no matter how good he is at his job, he cant get shyt accomplished. Its something WE ALL KNOW. So, how do you fight against that? He cant call a spade a spade because he already denounced that voice in order to get to office. Aint no bootstrap pulling for him.

You cannot compare Mexicans or Gays to blacks, they stood on the shoulders of giants, and they havent been systematically destroyed by the US the way blacks have been. You want us to start fighting... fighting what? The muthafukkaz talking about fighting shyt were pushed to the margins of society by Obama. The fukk can Obama fight for now that he marginalized the voices stating what the goddamn problem is.

Youre a lost soul mayne.

No you're a lost soul. Obama been president since 2008 and you are acting like these systematic issues regarding racism just happened? He has been president not even 5 years and you want to place blame on him and write him off already? We weren't ready for a black president and it's obvious because of cats like you. So you're saying there is no need to fight anymore, nothing to fight for but in here bytching about Obama. Do you see that he came out and became vocal about Trayvon Martin after us as a people started fighting back and protesting? I guess the point you are tying to make is that everything is useless and we as black people just need to keep complaining about white people and Obama on message boards and accept the status quo. I see no other point in your argument. Kind of have me thinking you are just one of those against the grain black folks who will be against anything the majority of blacks are for just to be different. You make no valid points of what can be done to change anything, all you are doing is bytching and bytching more. I see why you are a Cornell West supporter.

 

[OG Talk]

Exactly. These guys don't seem to realize that America was founded and built under white rule. That mentality has been maintained by brutally dealing with any minority that speaks against it. They talk like they expect all black people to be like Malcom X. Like all black people should be militant.

Do they not realize that a large number of "successful" black people have merely been ALLOWED to be rich and successful? Do they really think Oprah, Jay-Z, Beyonce, Colin Powel, Condeleeza Rice, OBAMA, would have risen to such levels by talking about the "white devil"?

Not everybody is a Huey Newton, but people like Newton, fought and died so that ALL black people can succeed on their own terms, and show that we are not to be always lumped into one group.

What a stupid post.

Where's the "higher intellect" in here?

@BarNone I'm suing you for false advertisement..You can represent yourself in court...

 

[bzb]

Answer the question



Who is the enemy?

you should know as well as i do that's an ambiguous question, but i'll play.... in the specific terms of obama and the "obvious harm he orchestrates" as you stated, the enemy in it's simplest form is the gop and their obstructionist approach towards all things obama.

 

[OG Talk]

you should know as well as i do that's an ambiguous question, but i'll play.... in the specific terms of obama and the "obvious harm he orchestrates" as you stated, the enemy in it's simplest form is the gop and their obstructionist approach towards all things obama.

I was speaking strickly in terms of the military industrial complex and the innocent victims that are a result of that.

He's more than just a political figure.. He's the commander and chief of the worlds largest army..

The GOP is only an enemy to a liberal agenda which I have no interest in defending or claiming as my own...

 

[Born2BKing]

I was speaking strickly in terms of the military industrial complex and the innocent victims that are a result of that.

He's more than just a political figure.. He's the commander and chief of the worlds largest army..

The GOP is only an enemy to a liberal agenda which I have no interest in defending or claiming as my own...

Do you know where the fukk black people would probably be without the "liberal" agenda? Do you know the history of this country? Just because your young ass didn't grow up being hosed down and blatantly discriminated against, doesn't erase history. My father grew up in S.C. in the 50's and has seen the REAL racism and guess who where the ones to change that? Yeah the so called liberals. Black folks aren't stupid or blind sheep as much as folks like you would like to think we are. People that grew up during the civil rights era are liberals or democrats and no it's not just because they are stupid brainwashed ******s. They have seen how stuff really played out over the years and who was in their corner. Don't disrespect my family or my ancestors, miss me with that shyt.

 

[Type Username Here]

Opinion piece from the Harvard Law Record:

The Dangers of Profiling

Armed with a drink in one hand, and a snack in the other, an American teenager’s life was brought to an abrupt end by a man armed with much more potent tools: a penchant for racial profiling and the deadly capability to eliminate anyone he deemed a danger. Motivated by the belief that individuals who looked suspicious — folks who followed a specific pattern of behavior –were a threat to his community, he decided to make an executive decision and took the life of a boy he knew virtually nothing about.

Although killing of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki did not incite the nation-wide outrage that the slaying of Trayvon Martin did, the circumstances that led to their tragic and untimely deaths are similar. Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, a 16-year-old from Denver, Colorado, was killed in a U.S. drone strike authorized by President Barack Obama on October 14th, 2011. At the time of his death, Abdulrahman was eating a barbecue dinner with his cousin and several other teenagers. The supposed target of the strike, al-Qaeda leader Ibrahim Banna, supposedly remains at large. Meanwhile, in the midst of false reports that Abdulrahman was a 21-year-old terror suspect, a U.S. official claimed that the boy’s death was a result of simply being in the “wrong place, at the wrong time.”

That explanation was not good enough for what is left of Abdulrahman’s family. Nasser al-Awlaki, father of Anwar and grandfather of Abdulrahman, filed a lawsuit in federal court both before and after the deaths of his descendants. In a recent op-ed for the New York Times, the former Fulbright Scholar and University of Nebraska professor argued that someone should be held accountable for the death of his grandson – and that the drone programs of the CIA and DoD need more transparency.

On the very same day that President Obama elected to give an impromptu speech concerning this country’s history of institutionalized racism and racial profiling, Judge Rosemary M. Collyer presided over the case brought by the surviving Al-Awlaki. Much like Trayvon’s untimely death likely could have been avoided if not for the racist ideology that led George Zimmerman to suspect Trayvon was a threat, Abdulrahman’s death by drone strike also could have been avoided if not for the maladroit policy that has resulted in the deaths of at least 176 children in Pakistan alone.

While thousands of Americans took to the streets to protest the untimely death of Trayvon, a fraction of our populace even know Abdulrahman’s name. And to most Americans, the 176 brown children killed by our President may forever remain nameless examples of “collateral damage.” As our President urges congress to enact more legislation that would result in more equitable treatment for Americans of all colors, perhaps that rationale should be extended to our foreign policy.

Jonathan Nomamiukor is the Managing Editor of the Harvard Law Record.

 

[bzb]

I was speaking strickly in terms of the military industrial complex and the innocent victims that are a result of that.

He's more than just a political figure.. He's the commander and chief of the worlds largest army..

The GOP is only an enemy to a liberal agenda which I have no interest in defending or claiming as my own...

ever heard of the bush doctrine? do you think world wide pre-emptive military intervention, bases built, money invested, warlords paid off, politicians implanted and regimes switched can be changed in less than two terms by a president who doesn't have the support of congress?

you trying to simplify it or dumb it down to "liberal agenda" makes your point elementary and somewhat novice in the entire scheme of things.


and then you say something like obama and the "obvious harm he orchestrates" is the problem.

 

[Type Username Here]

ever heard of the bush doctrine? do you think world wide pre-emptive military intervention, bases built, money invested, warlords paid off, politicians implanted and regimes switched can be changed in less than two terms by a president who doesn't have the support of congress?

But you're neglecting that the current President has expanded upon the Bush Doctrine, and in some cases implemented his own criminal policies that go beyond even what Bush did. You're acting as if he let the status quo remain because of opposition, when the truth is that he oversaw a drastic escalation.

 

[Born2BKing]

But you're neglecting that the current President has expanded upon the Bush Doctrine, and in some cases implemented his own criminal policies that go beyond even what Bush did. You're acting as if he let the status quo remain because of opposition, when the truth is that he oversaw a drastic escalation.

Obama has done nothing that expanded what Bush did and what he was faced with coming into office. You cats who are talking about Drone strikes and the innocents killed never seem to ever mention how we got troops out of Iraq and how we are bringing home the troops in Afghanistan. You don't mention the 18 and 19 year old american soldiers who will avoid death by transitioning out of having foot soldiers in Afghanistan (yes a lot of them are black, and I have had black friends killed during these wars) but simply want to focus on the drone strikes and the negatives of them. Oh no, these kids being raised by terrorists are being causalities of war, oh nooo. Truman dropped a fukking Nuke on Japan and we have had deaths in our military efforts dating back to fukking George Washington. Would you be in here complaining about the dead rebel kids during the Civil War? You can't expect Obama to come in and end all conflicts he inherited without tough decisions and causalities. The drone shyt is just the narrative you fukkers are using to justify your against the grain mindset.