Cornel West reacts to Obama's remarks on GZ verdict. Calls Obama a hypocrite and global GZ.

[Kritic]

Cornell West has been bitter ever since Obama didn't invite him to the White House. It's always easier to sit back and complain from a position like his than to actually be in the fire like Obama. It doesn't matter if you agree with Obama or not, either contribute something or sit down.

that's an assumption you're making. it's like a bunch of nuccas congregating and saying the real one is mad cause he wasn't invited. he's not mad cause he wasn't invited.
barack didn't invite west cause he doesn't want to make a promise he knows he cannot cannot deliver. and the truth and not an assumption.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Obama has done nothing that expanded what Bush did and what he was faced with coming into office.

I stopped reading your post after that sentence. How can you be caping so hard for someone and not have a clue as to what he has done while in office.
Where do you get your info from if you don't mind my asking because you are not that well informed.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

The thing that irks me about people's reactions to Cornell West's criticism of Obama is that it is always treated like he is some sort of butthurt jealous old crab who has no validity in his arguments and also would not be saying the exact same thing about any other president if they were doing the same thing as Obama in terms of targeted drone strikes.
West was a constant critic of GW Bush and no one who is denigrating the man now would have been anything but complimentary about those attacks on The Shrub but his attacking Obama over the same policies gets an entirely different reaction.
At some point the overwhelming need to be protective of Obama needs to fall by the wayside...he got his second term, his place in history is secure. Now how about stopping with the constant legitimizing of the "Myth of the Powerless President" ("Obama can't do anything because Congress is against him and the Republicans are a bunch of meanies!") meme that only became a go to talking point once Obama became president and actually hold his feet to the fire when he does crappy stuff.

Excellent posting my brother.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Listen to Minister Farrakhan and learn something. Stand up, protest, organize something, gather your community. Don't just sit around and blame Obama. Notice Cornell West clapping his ass off but still won't do shyt but lecture rich white kids at Ivy league schools.

"Until WE force that house (white house) to enforce our agenda"
"How long are you gonna sit around and beg white people to do for us what we can do for ourselves"

@Type Username Here @intilectual recipricol

Cornell West is a professor at a seminary now. He's no longer Ivy League, so you can stop using that against him. Your God Obama has made sure Ivy's no longer hire that man. Your fukking president.

 

[Walt]

Cornell West is a professor at a seminary now. He's no longer Ivy League, so you can stop using that against him. Your God Obama has made sure Ivy's no longer hire that man. Your fukking president.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This is exactly why I don't post in this forum, because y'all stay reducing real shyt like policy, life, and societal realities to sports levels of debate. I mean, it is possible to be honest about and critical of Obama and West. The weird tendency to tear down one while propping up the other illustrates that too many people on both sides of the argument conveniently define integrity, hypocrisy, and facts in the most blind, one-sided fashion possible.

 

[ThatTruth777]

Jay-Z learn from Mos Def and West... I can see some of his points but this dude's whole tone is just "fukk obama, that bish ass nikka! " like one day Obama stepped on his shoes looked back and did a to his face. He made alot of points but I'm just gonna type that this man has faced probably the most defiant congress ever. These nutcase repubs hate this dude and don't work with him for shyt.

 

[Higher Tech]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This is exactly why I don't post in this forum, because y'all stay reducing real shyt like policy, life, and societal realities to sports levels of debate. I mean, it is possible to be honest about and critical of Obama and West. The weird tendency to tear down one while propping up the other illustrates that too many people on both sides of the argument conveniently define integrity, hypocrisy, and facts in the most blind, one-sided fashion possible.

God dammit nikka.... you are the real deal.

The duality of man tends to not exist 'round these parts.

 

[Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson]

i dont know mush abou dis kernel wess but all dem big words he use and dat big ol afro and dem funny glasses let me know he da tipe a negro not to truss.

he seem like da same tipe uh uppity high fallootin trubblemakin yella negro as barah obomma dass always goin aroun marchin in da strees and causin prollems fuh good whie folts so I dont know what da conflick is abou. I juss know to keep frum around dem tipes.

barah obomma is deadakated to keepin da whie man unda da uppresive heal uh blas and kernel wess dont seem no diffrint. dass juss my opinyun.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This is exactly why I don't post in this forum, because y'all stay reducing real shyt like policy, life, and societal realities to sports levels of debate. I mean, it is possible to be honest about and critical of Obama and West. The weird tendency to tear down one while propping up the other illustrates that too many people on both sides of the argument conveniently define integrity, hypocrisy, and facts in the most blind, one-sided fashion possible.

Of course its possible to be critcal of both Obama and West. Unfortunately most Obama stans reflexively hate West simply because he refuses to play along with the democtatic plantation code of conduct.

I dislike Obama for many reasons, far too many to list here. Anyone who frequents this board can attest to that. But it's unfortunate that you feel this forum is beneath you however. Perhaps we should discuss some interesting rape stories?

 

[Born2BKing]

Teach at Ivy league schools to rich white kids instead of taking less money to teach at an HBCU. "My brother" Cornell even wrote a book called " The Rich and the Rest of Us" Like his ass ain't rich charging crazy fees to come spit his dumb ass shyt.

Of course its possible to be critcal of both Obama and West. Unfortunately most Obama stans reflexively hate West simply because he refuses to play along with the democtatic plantation code of conduct.

I dislike Obama for many reasons, far too many to list here. Anyone who frequents this board can attest to that. But it's unfortunate that you feel this forum is beneath you however. Perhaps we should discuss some interesting rape stories?

Yeah cause we's us here black folk can't decide what here iz bes for us here dere in dis here crazy politikal convasationz. We's so brainwashed by dem dere democraticz. We shouldz supportz a Rauds Paw because he dere is really for us here izzues.

 

[Walt]

Of course its possible to be critcal of both Obama and West. Unfortunately most Obama stans reflexively hate West simply because he refuses to play along with the democtatic plantation code of conduct.

I dislike Obama for many reasons, far too many to list here. Anyone who frequents this board can attest to that. But it's unfortunate that you feel this forum is beneath you however. Perhaps we should discuss some interesting rape stories?

Oh shyt dog... no you didn't, girrrrrrrl! I had to throw ice at my phone's screen cuz I was feelin da burn from dat ether.

So let's see... you're in a forum that is - in ideal theory - supposed to host a more rigorous, more thoughtful, and more informed level of discussion of serious issues than the rest of the board... and your responses to my posts about Cornell West have been "did he fukk your mother" and "go tell some more lowbrow rape stories." I didn't say Higher Learning was "beneath" me (though your posts in response to mine so far haven't done much to refute that notion) I just think the tendency to reduce complex issues to Nas vs. Jay-Z debates is off-putting and unproductive.

Sadly, my "interesting rape stories" don't exist, except in the same incredibly base, shallow, and depressingly juvenile sphere in which you keep using baseless platitudes to describe the noble, esteemed, freedom-fighting, social champion Cornell West against the evil, hypocritical, Sith Lord, puppet Barack Obama.

I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't fukk with Obama heavy like that. But there's nothing you have said - and frankly, nothing you can say, since I know you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to Cornell West - about West that has much basis in reality aside from the fact that the president should be critiqued. In some cases, the messenger does indeed obscure the message. West doesn't have much of a leg to stand on here, and that's sad to me because we do need legitimate voices critiquing those in power. West might've had a time when he could've been that kind of voice, but that shyt has long since passed.

Are you interested in discussing Obama, West, integrity, motives, etc. - or are you looking to prop one figure up to give yourself a sense of greater legitimacy in arguing against those who support the figure you aim to tear down? Because serious debate and conversation in a "Higher Learning" forum should preclude emotionally lashing out at someone who disagrees with or contradicts a point you've made. And for the record, no, Cornell West didn't fukk my mother. and my "interesting rape stories" are damn sure more informed, thoughtful, and interesting than the bulk of this sad ass thread. Maybe that's why, with the one story of the nine in that thread ostensibly about rape... you dapped it.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Oh shyt dog... no you didn't, girrrrrrrl! I had to throw ice at my phone's screen cuz I was feelin da burn from dat ether.

So let's see... you're in a forum that is - in ideal theory - supposed to host a more rigorous, more thoughtful, and more informed level of discussion of serious issues than the rest of the board... and your responses to my posts about Cornell West have been "did he fukk your mother" and "go tell some more lowbrow rape stories." I didn't say Higher Learning was "beneath" me (though your posts in response to mine so far haven't done much to refute that notion) I just think the tendency to reduce complex issues to Nas vs. Jay-Z debates is off-putting and unproductive.

Sadly, my "interesting rape stories" don't exist, except in the same incredibly base, shallow, and depressingly juvenile sphere in which you keep using baseless platitudes to describe the noble, esteemed, freedom-fighting, social champion Cornell West against the evil, hypocritical, Sith Lord, puppet Barack Obama.

I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't fukk with Obama heavy like that. But there's nothing you have said - and frankly, nothing you can say, since I know you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to Cornell West - about West that has much basis in reality aside from the fact that the president should be critiqued. In some cases, the messenger does indeed obscure the message. West doesn't have much of a leg to stand on here, and that's sad to me because we do need legitimate voices critiquing those in power. West might've had a time when he could've been that kind of voice, but that shyt has long since passed.

Are you interested in discussing Obama, West, integrity, motives, etc. - or are you looking to prop one figure up to give yourself a sense of greater legitimacy in arguing against those who support the figure you aim to tear down? Because serious debate and conversation in a "Higher Learning" forum should preclude emotionally lashing out at someone who disagrees with or contradicts a point you've made. And for the record, no, Cornell West didn't fukk my mother. and my "interesting rape stories" are damn sure more informed, thoughtful, and interesting than the bulk of this sad ass thread. Maybe that's why, with the one story of the nine in that thread ostensibly about rape... you dapped it.

Well first off I think I took mild offense to your initial post because I felt you were simply trying to place everyone on the forum in a box. As if we all some immature group of people arguing without any reasoning or thought process behind our words. If you ask anyone that posts here, i've been an ardent critic of the Obama administration since his second year, and every since I've been more critical of him his continued actions have proven me right. Now I'm sure your not someone who follows politics or this subforum as closely i have over the past few years, so when you just come to the forum and see alot of outrageous comments you may develop an innaccurate view of the intellectual capacity of the posters in this forum. But again, its possible that I may have been inaccurate in my initial assessment of your previous post, and I that is true then my apologies.

And in reference to the crude language and imagery that I've used on occasion, its simply me being crass. Battling legions of Obamabots day in and day out in these forums have made be a bit abrasive I admit. But again, it wasn't my intention to offend your sensibilities with my previous comments. It was simply a critical jab with an outrageous twist.

And lastly, I dapped you rape story because it was a good fukking story. I have no problem with rape stories as long as they don't glorify the act which yours didn't. I simply referenced them when you attempted to condemn the forum as being too "immature" for you to frequent. And last I checked you've been responsible for some immature threads. Mostly excellently written, but still immature nonetheless.

All in all, please consider posting here more often. We desperately need more erudite voices posting in this subforum.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

shyt I'm as left as they come, but this system of apologetics for Obama is disgusting. Its like ol buddy is wrapped in a coc00n where criticism cant reach him. Like were all supposed to rah rah him on from the sidelines. nikkaz actin like dude is above reproach and are actually saying that he shouldnt address the concerns of a minority group. All I can do is shake my head.

 

[Born2BKing]

shyt I'm as left as they come, but this system of apologetics for Obama is disgusting. Its like ol buddy is wrapped in a coc00n where criticism cant reach him. Like were all supposed to rah rah him on from the sidelines. nikkaz actin like dude is above reproach and are actually saying that he shouldn't address the concerns of a minority group. All I can do is shake my head.

I myself have plenty of complaints regarding Obama but when cats like you who turn any and everything he does into something negative, it's not even worth debating. I stopped watching MSNBC and Fox News for this very reason. It's like trying to discuss Obama's policy with Sean Hannity when everyone knows nothing said will matter and he will spin it and still hate him at the end of the day.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

I myself have plenty of complaints regarding Obama but when cats like you who turn any and everything he does into something negative, it's not even worth debating. I stopped watching MSNBC and Fox News for this very reason. It's like trying to discuss Obama's policy with Sean Hannity when everyone knows nothing said will matter and he will spin it and still hate him at the end of the day.

Really? nikkaz like me? Everything he does? You sure youre talking about me? My main issue is him marginalizing the black voices that he considers "radical" that we all agree spit that truth. My reasoning is that it hurts progress of the movement. I dont even know how nikkaz like you can defend him on that. It takes extreme cowardice to marginalize voices speaking the truth. Even if he did it to become president. Now those clowns can be like, "the fukk are those nikkaz talkin about, systematic racism stopping black people, I agree with Obama, those nikkaz are off the deep end."

And yall buy that shyt caught up in the hype