ALonelyDad
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I personally agree but I have never seen so many ppl call out a GM's job, from media to ex players, etc. The pressure will get to the FO and they will cave in.
Cooked Kings, bytchmade bigs, and shytty snitches: Your 2022-23 GOAT franchise Boss Angeles Lakers season thread
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Idk man.... after watching these first two games, there is ALOT to like about this team. The defense, the heart, the accountability, the younger guys seem to know their roles unlike last year with some of the older dudes
The issue is Russ and shooting.. If the Lakers made 4-5 more 3 pointers they win this game, and that Warriors game is immensely closer. A Turner/Hield lineup frees up the lane for Bron, allows AD to play the 4 on a mismatch, an allows us not to make only 9 three's in a game.. Lakers don't need to be a good or even great defensive team, they just need to not be HORRIFIC
You guys got him out of his element though. He's getting extended meaningful minutes and way too many touches. That's not who is he at all. He's the tyrant that comes in to give a hot hand or star guard or wing hell for 15 minutes or so and occasionally knock down a three ball. All those heavy minutes, receiving kick outs for threes, and triple the shots that he normally gets in a game is not him. You gotta know what you have and don't have. The same thing applies to Juan Toscano-Anderson
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firemanBk
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I think the issue is there's a chance, even if slight, that being shytty this year might land Big Vic in the Big Easy
and I don't think Laker fans want to live with that brutal reality
ALonelyDad
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The shooting is the main issue, and Buddy Hield alone wont fix it. Only way I do it is if Indy is giving us more role players in this deal. I like Myles Turner and think he would make our defense great but when it comes to offense, he is a "fake" shooter. He has shot 34%, 33% & 33% from 3 last 3 seasons. This lineup would still be very horrible in terms of spacing and shooting. You really need 2-3 shooters in this deal. I do like the defensive trio of Bron/AD/Turner though
LeBron is their best shooter. On most squad that Win, you want him to be your 3rd or 4th best shooter at best.
Then the shooters they got are 3rd stringers on other squads like Reaves and Ryan
AD shooting might be as bad as Russ
True he won't by himself... but him on the floor instead of Russ won't pack the paint. I mean Turner is better from 3 than what we're getting from ANY of the team we have right now not named Lebron. I would be happy with anyone else on this team shooting 34% right now lol.
That lineup would be infinitely better in terms of space and shooting. Turner is a better shooter than Russ, can impact better on the defensive end, and allows AD to be defended by a 4. I get what people are saying in that you need 2-3 shooters, and honestly I'd be content with a Matt Ryan for awhile
The Lakers got no depth. They aren't a major trade away right now. Even though Turner and Hield makes them a play in team with a decent chance to make the playoffs if healthy which is a issue both Turner especially, cost is critical and Turner is due a contract extension.
I don't see an easy answer for AD. That LA trade killed their depth and the depth they had, was killed worse by the Westbrook trade
What do you think is the solution? If Lakers can find a way to trade for Buddy Hield, Turner, and Eric Gordon there’s some hope IMO.
Lol ironically enough, Russ’ trade value increases as we get closer to the deadline. Teams trading for Russ don’t care about his performance. Trading for Russ gives them a chance to get off $47M worth of long-term contracts after this season in one fell swoop. There’s a lot of value in that, especially for re-building teams. They can use that cap space to take on more bad contracts with picks attached. Lakers are smart to wait it out.
They need to get quality role players for cheaper rates and develop guys like Miami. Get a guy like Cam Reddish. Guys like Aaron Holiday. Their depth is abysmal. It's going to be hard to win if you are so dependent on an old LeBron.
If the Lakers can sign a ton of guys for a lower rate, they may have a shot.
If I do a trade, it would be something like this
Sexton, Olynk, Marrkeaan and Kessler for those picks.
Gets you a legit 6th man who can start in Sexton
Lauri can play the 3 and 4 like he did for CLE
Kelly gives them a shooter off the bench
Kessler gives them a young talented center they haven't had since Zubac who has more upsides.
For that, I would consider trading the picks for
Not Hield or Turner.
Both of them are overpaid and not that good. Whereas all of the other guys are paid exactly what they are value wise and Sexton is a coup. You basically solve all of the Lakers issue with the Jazz deal. That said, getting the Jazz to do this is only possible if they are winning too many games in a need to tank year.
No, we don't "know" that at all.
We just lost by 5. LeBron and AD missed 4 free throws combined. Buddy makes two threes, we win that game.
Game was competitive the entire way. Look at the previous game, and you'll see the same. Difference was, in the first game, the other team actually could shoot, which was literally the difference. You're not keeping Golden State from hitting threes all game. But you can defend them well, and we did-- we just couldn't fight back.
We just shot 9 for 40 from three in a single game. Buddy makes 4 threes a game.
Quick math: Lost by 5 > Buddy makes 4 threes > win by 7.
Turner is a bonus, especially because he gives you size and rim protection when AD is out. The real positive of that trade is Buddy and getting rid of Russ.
Buddy doesn't defend and his shot selection is bad and his BBIQ isn't much to write about. He's simply not good.
Turner is good but you gotta pay him and he has to stay healthy. To me, Hield and Turner for Russ is easy but for two 1sts unprotected in the future on a team that's not gonna have Bron. I couldn't do it. No way.
That is a good trade. But not worth those two picks both unprotected.