Conway the Machine - God Don't Make Mistakes (Discussion Thread)

[Air Nikes N Hats]

I love the album. It does feel a bit too short, considering all the time that has passed. Is there a deluxe version with addition tracks in the works?

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I'm reading this discussion and am feeling freaked out. I heard part of the album and it felt light compared to his Insta work. As if he could have compiled all that and made a grimy album. I love Conway and what he can do.

Are you telling me ppl waited on this and ppl are dissapointed?

As if all the bangers are there and he drifted from the West/Benny/Conway/Derringer formula?
The perfect sound?

It's as if the work was b*stardized?

I'm not trying to diss Conway or anyone involved.

Personally I'd be scared if I dropped something off my core sound as an artist.

It's on me I have to give the album a full listen but this discussion is fukking me up cause alot of you are real heads who care about hip hop.

Lock and load sounded dope and said something dope about being a spiritual entity on I think the stressed song.

Lol you shouldn't be as worried as it seems breh. The album is fine. One beat got changed, and that's about it. It's the exact song he played on IG Live. Most of the songs he played on there that aren't on here were never intended for this anyways. It's the same tracklist that was submitted last fall and played on IG live. The only track that had the beat started over from scratch is the Drumwork track. That's it.

This is about as dark and heavy an album as you can drop on a major label. He got Daringer and Alc to produce most of the songs.

It sounds just fine

 

[Crumple]

Lol you shouldn't be as worried as it seems breh. The album is fine. One beat got changed, and that's about it. It's the exact song he played on IG Live. Most of the songs he played on there that aren't on here were never intended for this anyways. It's the same tracklist that was submitted last fall and played on IG live. The only track that had the beat started over from scratch is the Drumwork track. That's it.

This is about as dark and heavy an album as you can drop on a major label. He got Daringer and Alc to produce most of the songs.

It sounds just fine

Alright cool cool. I respect your opinion and what you said here. I'll check it.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Alright cool cool. I respect your opinion and what you said here. I'll check it.

Enjoy breh

 

[Crumple]

Enjoy breh

Thanks homie!

 

[Stone]

Would’ve rather he took Drumwork off and put it somewhere else with the original sample and make another song with his artists

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I love the album. It does feel a bit too short, considering all the time that has passed. Is there a deluxe version with addition tracks in the works?

BTW this and FKTAG have the exact same runtime.

I'm not sure if there's a deluxe version or not being planned. My guess is no. But there's a lot of songs you can add to a playlist of stuff that was meant to be on here. Any or all of the following at various points in time was slated to be on this album. Most is available in high quality besides the first song.

Spoiler

 

[Heavy_Handz]

Tape is mid. Don’t like to compare but butcher projects hit different…: con the better mc in my opinion but Benny has the better projects

You already know how I feel about this. One of my best friends texted me this “I love Conway and he goes real hard on features or collabs but he just can't make good songs” & I can’t even disagree. His best songs are usually just one deep verse over a haunting beat. Anything outside of that & I just can’t get with it from Con.

 

[Black Ball]

Album def got some heat on it. But's it's a little uneven to me.

I understand Conway been trying to make more well rounded albums these last few go arounds, but I just don't know if he's that type of artist.

His run with GOAT, Food 1 & 2, Blakk Tape. Is
Conway at his best. Simple focused tracks. Hard, Sinister, & Dark production. 10 tracks, around 30 mins. I think that's his lane.

I'd rather hear more projects like Lulu, than these bigger album attempts. Benny not the spitter that Conway is, but he's got the range to make these bigger sounding, well rounded albums.

I'm happy for dude nonetheless. He's made so much dope music, he deserves all of the success.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

You already know how I feel about this. One of my best friends texted me this “I love Conway and he goes real hard on features or collabs but he just can't make good songs” & I can’t even disagree. His best songs are usually just one deep verse over a haunting beat. Anything outside of that & I just can’t get with it from Con.

Bro, like 90% of underground rap joints now are one long ass verse, or a couple of bars that get repeated as a hook. Or a sample is used as a hook. Tana Talk 3 is a perfect example. Mic Tyson. Bandana. Pinata. Reloaded. These are incredible albums from the past 10 years that have very little in the way of hooks if they have them at all.

There's literally no hook on the new Benny and J Cole song. It's just 2 long ass verses and it's perfect like that.

No one is clamoring for a three 16 bar verse format with 8 bar hooks anymore. Stressed is that, but damn it;'s the first time I've heard that in a while besides the Nas and Hit-Boy joints. Some of their songs have the 16 verse / 8 hook format.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Album def got some heat on it. But's it's a little uneven to me.

I understand Conway been trying to make more well rounded albums these last few go arounds, but I just don't know if he's that type of artist.

His run with GOAT, Food 1 & 2, Blakk Tape. Is
Conway at his best. Simple focused tracks. Hard, Sinister, & Dark production. 10 tracks, around 30 mins. I think that's his lane.

I'd rather hear more projects like Lulu, than these bigger album attempts. Benny not the spitter that Conway is, but he's got the range to make these bigger sounding, well rounded albums.

I'm happy for dude nonetheless. He's made so much dope music, he deserves all of the success.

I like short Conway projects more too. I'm looking at Lulu now and it's 23 mins. I think 30 mins on that would've been perfect. Add 2 songs to it for an 8-track project and call it a day.

I'm a sucker for short projects in general though. For the most part I don't wanna hear anyone raps these days for more than 40-45 mins unless every song is damn near perfect.

 

[areohbee824]

The title track is some incredible shyt

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Chanel Pearls chorus about??? LOL

 

[Heavy_Handz]

Bro, like 90% of underground rap joints now are one long ass verse, or a couple of bars that get repeated as a hook. Or a sample is used as a hook. Tana Talk 3 is a perfect example. Mic Tyson. Bandana. Pinata. Reloaded. These are incredible albums from the past 10 years that have very little in the way of hooks if they have them at all.

There's literally no hook on the new Benny and J Cole song. It's just 2 long ass verses and it's perfect like that.

No one is clamoring for a three 16 bar verse format with 8 bar hooks anymore. Stressed is that, but damn it;'s the first time I've heard that in a while besides the Nas and Hit-Boy joints. Some of their songs have the 16 verse / 8 hook format.

Johnny P’s Caddy is a great song. And Benny absolutely used hooks on Tana Talk 3. What you mean? I’m not saying you have to have hooks on every song or three 16 bar format. I just mean make great songs. Usually when it comes to Conway I feel like he really struggles making good album songs aside from his introspective one verse joints over a haunting beat. He has that on lock.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Johnny P’s Caddy is a great song. And Benny absolutely used hooks on Tana Talk 3. What you mean? I’m not saying you have to have hooks on every song or three 16 bar format. I just mean make great songs. Usually when it comes to Conway I feel like he really struggles making good album songs aside from his introspective one verse joints over a haunting beat. He has that on lock.

The only song on Plugs I Met with a hook is Plug House.

There are only 4 songs out of 14 on TT3 that have hooks on them. Rubber Bands Weight, Echo Long, Who Are You, and Rick. That's it for Tana Talk 3. No other hooks. I got the album memorized bar for bar. Feel free to go back and listen to it.

By all means man, like Benny more than you like Conway. That's a super fair opinion. I did until 2020, and even now they're both near the top of my list of favorite rappers. But the idea that Conway is the rocking long ass verses without much in the way of hooks (as if the rest of his peers are doing otherwise) is disingenuous.

EDIT: @Heavy_Handz of course Johnny P's Caddy is a great song. You don't gotta tell me. I rushed here to post the thread. It's an incredible song.