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VoxSphere74

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A lot of Black people post memes about Umar and hoteps to laugh at them because they don't respect or want pro-Blackness.

They want white acceptance which they'll never get (nor should they want it) but they want it anyway because they don't have a Black culture to respect, anchor them or give them direction.
 

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I mean, being Black + a woman is a unique experience because of the discrimination that is two-fold. Gotta deal with racists and misogynists. The issue with Blackness first is that the things that are problems that are specific to women and girls in the community are placed on the back burner or ignored. If the men in charge actually think women/girls are less than, they will never address our issues. The issue with Feminism is that it is inherently White and primarily addresses the issues White women have with White men and the system they created. It’s really about them getting more control so they are the White man’s equal, so racial issues, issues specific to Black women are placed at the bottom of the list and we are told they will be addressed when the original agenda, created by white women, is achieved.
Not to mention that at the end of the day, White women are still racist and benefit from White Supremacy, and will never actually leave the side of White men, because who walks away from power?

We only make up 6% of the population, so separating and having our own movement doesn’t make sense.

So ultimately Black first is the most sensible way to go, but this would require us to believe and trust that brehs will actually address our concerns when the Black agenda is achieved, and not take their newfound respect and power and use that to make moves in mainstream culture without US by their side.*

*Flashbacks of popular Black male entertainers and others in the past who said there was nothing a Black woman could do for them (because they were crossing over and having a White woman was viewed as making it). And yes I know 1-2 Black female entertainers said the same, but it was no where near the amount of Black male entertainers who made it and decided White women were the best thing since sliced bread.
To add on this, I think part of the reason bw turn to their own version of feminism that is separate from white women and no longer identify with blackness first, like they used to, is because many don’t trust bm.

They don’t believe bm truly love and care about them or seek to address the unique issues bw face, and care more about the issues impacting bm. They also feel that bm desire nonbw and what nonbw have, and see bw and the issues bw face with negativity. They don’t think bm care about understanding her issues. The distrust bw feel leads to the separation.

And id argue there are bm that feel distrust for bw too. There’s distrust and underlining negative feelings between both bw and bm, so I think until those get addressed, there will be no unification.
 
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Can we be honest… between slavery, Jim Crow, and the overall plights and conditions we’ve faced in this country, have these other races truly ever been scared of us retaliating, fighting back, or standing up to them and demanding change? I hate to say it, but people don’t respect us, fear us, or care for us, and it’s been ongoing. :francis: We haven’t taken the action that would give them a reason to truly fear us and respect us.
I really want to know the specific time period these nikkas think everyone was scared of opposing black people.
 

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Unpopular conversation: the poor state of black people globally—with a bigger conversation about Africa. There is a poster who has continued to bring up the issues plaguing Africa whenever an issue largely faced by homosexuals takes place in the United States (for example HIV and monkey pox in Africa)

Add to that the fact that Chinese people came and… I just find it crazy that everywhere even black majority countries are full of struggle and strife.

Is there any place around the globe where we are dominating and thriving in most facets of life? If not, why? What can be done?
 

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To add on this, I think part of the reason bw turn to their own version of feminism that is separate from white women and no longer identify with blackness first, like they used to, is because many don’t trust bm.

They don’t believe bm truly love and care about them or seek to address the unique issues bw face, and care more about the issues impacting bm. They also feel that bm desire nonbw and what nonbw have, and see bw and the issues bw face with negativity. They don’t think bm care about understanding her issues. The distrust bw feel leads to the separation.

And id argue there are bm that feel distrust for bw too. There’s distrust and underlining negative feelings between both bw and bm, so I think until those get addressed, there will be no unification.

Yet these women's alternative is usually to find a cac male.

Cac males who are the most sexist and racist of any group of men :unimpressed:


Like the other poster said they'll say black men are no different to white women, but then leave out and omit what cac males do with regards to sexism in institutions that they control such as things like pay with regards to their OWN WOMEN :unimpressed:


These women aint nothing but bedwenches looking for a faux justification to be socially allowed to get with cac :yeshrug:
 

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Reparations will never happen. Even with politicians that would fight hard for it.. The Supreme Court would shut it down.
I'll take this one further: reparations is a pipe dream mainly because AA don't take politics nearly serious enough for it to ever pass.

Most of the the people who beat their chest the hardest about reparations on this site are c00ns who are just trying to give themselves pro black credibility . If you were really serious about it you would as big a liberal/Democrat supporter as Napoleon as it would be hard to pass even if Senate was majority Democrats. There is no "both sides" if you really gave a fukk about it point blank. The only state Gov giving the topic the time of day happens to be THE most liberal state in the union that most of the "black men" on here LOATHE. These dudes would rather play contrarian to troll on the web than get on code for the community, which is why I find most of the reparations hype on here disingenuous af.

Dudes who spent their entire lives being governed by literal racists gleefully supporting black voter apathy while simultaneously harping about the need for reparations is one of the most ridiculous examples of hypocrisy I've ever witnessed #onhere
 
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