Connecticuit Gun Laws for Rifles and Shotguns

Jutt

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there are countries with a worse mental health infrastructure than us, but they dont have massacres like this because they dont have as many cheap guns. that should be easy to see, but then again, you are who you are...

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....if somebody snaps and wants people dead he will find a way. Which is why i brought up the issue of bomb making. Sure it doesnt happen often, but whos to say it wouldnt if guns were suddenly "harder" to come by. Youre using the chinese dude as an example..thats cool. But what about The Unabomber..Timothy McVeigh.


The mental state drives someone to commit an atrocity like this. The tools they use for it vary, but the root cause is theyre fukking nuts in lamens terms.

breh, you are focusing on the least important part of this. a chinese lunatic stabbed 22 kids and none of them died, his craziness, though tragic and as large as today's shooter, was not lethal. the shooter had better equipment for carrying out a massacre. that is the defining issue.

I see parts of both points. There would be tougher restrictions and regulations regarding who can have a gun or be in proximity to one (including taking into account one's family). But you cannot ignore mental states. If there were regular mental health examinations as part of check-ups, from when we were young, it'd be easier to catch some of this stuff. So restricting guns alone couldn't do it, but it's a deterrence. Guns given people a short cut. It allows for snap judgments. But for the planned methodical killer, the guy at VA Tech, Columbine, etc.? Those types of people will find a way. It's just that I'd like to believe there is a very limited group of people who would want to go after kids so with the combination of comprehensive gun restrictions and regular examinations (from when one is young...don't make mental illness a stigma), we can probably get them most of them.

I think the guy today would be one of the type of people we'd get. It doesn't read as the planned weeks in advance type. But I think that's what makes it more scary, access to guns allow snap judgment moments like this to happen. But the guy determined to kill? This isn't doing shyt to him.
 

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Limit access, limit production, regulate the companies out of business.

Can we take down the tobacco companies while we are at it?
 

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you are one of the densest motherfukkers i've ever seen

yeah i sure am breh. Keeping in mind youve never seen or heard of me until today. I suppose youre a fukking Rhodes Scholar then huh? fukkin keyboard scholar. Getting his panties up when somebody disagrees.



Get off your high horse dog. Making personal attacks during an debate...thats a sign of the weak son.
 

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1. i actually believe that there are too many guns in circulation for gun laws to be of use. there's almost as many guns in america as there are citizens so even if we stopped making guns, we would be armed for a couple hundred years (about how long the average gun is projected to stay functional)

2. mental health is important, but it simply is not as important as the fact that a semi auto gun with a decent sized magazine gives spree shooters the ability to take dozens of lives in a minute or two.

3. i actually think we are screwed. there is no real solution that is politically viable. our second amendment has made any effective policy completely unpalatable to millions of americans. you simply cannot deny americans the right to have semi auto guns without there being a massive backlash. i believe we will eventually just get desensitized to mass casualties.

4. with republicans whining about government spending, we are also not going to do anything serious about beefing up our public health system. also, declaring people to be insane enough to be dangerous to themselves and others is quite difficult. taking someone's freedom away for mental health reasons is hard to do legally since these kinds of loons are not foaming at the mouth.
 

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yeah i sure am breh. Keeping in mind youve never seen or heard of me until today. I suppose youre a fukking Rhodes Scholar then huh? fukkin keyboard scholar. Getting his panties up when somebody disagrees.



Get off your high horse dog. Making personal attacks during an debate...thats a sign of the weak son.

at one point you said you were done. so shut the fukk up and go away
 

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'mental health' is a slippery subject. especially when we talk about denying 'rights' to certain people

it really does get into 'thought police' territory
 

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'mental health' is a slippery subject. especially when we talk about denying 'rights' to certain people

it really does get into 'thought police' territory

Everything is a slippery slope these days. Some people would run with the "police state" argument if gun laws were drastically changed too :manny:
 

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lol, and you called my posts weak.

Actually..i havent made any attacks til now.












Im not weak minded like that :umad:







But really i am done arguing with you dog. You got straight butthurt over a debate....thats not a good look for an adult.
 
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