Connecticuit Gun Laws for Rifles and Shotguns

[newarkhiphop]

Can you please explain to me, how an island nation like Britain, with the type of gun restrictions you are advocating still have murders and illegal weapons on the street?

Number of Murders, United States, 2009: 15,241

Number of Murders by Firearms, US, 2009: 9,146

Number of Murders, Britain, 2008*: 648
(Since Britain’s population is 1/5 that of US, this is equivalent to 3,240 US murders)

Number of Murders by[pdf] firearms, Britain, 2008* 39
(equivalent to 195 US murders)

It's was only slightly higher this past year

 

[Type Username Here]

It's was only slightly higher this past year

My point was that Britain has draconian gun laws, even much stronger than what some of the people here have been advocating AND they still have gun crime and illegal guns. They live on an island, it's not like they drive across the Mexican border to buy weapons.

My follow up point is this: if its the culture and social issues that's the problem, what makes you think this will help in America?

 

[SwagKingKong]

The sad truth is that a lot of people here in the States are cowards who are afraid of everybody and everything, so they cling to their guns. They're scared that without a gun, as soon as they go outside black people/illegal immigrants/terrorists/etc will attack them and they won't be able to defend themselves. The media makes it even worse.

That's terrible breh

It sounds like the system you've created with all them guns just makes things worse

 

[NZA]

My point was that Britain has draconian gun laws, even much stronger than what some of the people here have been advocating AND they still have gun crime and illegal guns. They live on an island, it's not like they drive across the Mexican border to buy weapons.

My follow up point is this: if its the culture and social issues that's the problem, what makes you think this will help in America?

do you think britain's gun control is a failure if it does not produce a utopia?

 

[Type Username Here]

do you think britain's gun control is a failure if it does not produce a utopia?

An utopia is unreachable.

If you are advocating gun restriction and control to prevent events like yesterday, nothing short of an utopia is going to do it.

The guns won't magically disappear. These people will still be walking around.

 

[NZA]

An utopia is unreachable.

If you are advocating gun restriction and control to prevent events like yesterday, nothing short of an utopia is going to do it.

The guns won't magically disappear. These people will still be walking around.

i actually said as much earlier in this thread, i dont think we can get rid of the guns in circulation. the damage is done, but i fail to see why the british example can even be questioned. their lack of easy to get assault weapons has produced an incredibly smaller number of murders.

my point is we are screwed. gun laws work when you dont already have lots of guns. we have too many guns to get rid of, guns are inherently dangerous. the presence of semi automatic guns makes everything more dangerous because their function is to make the person holding the gun an effective killer of human targets, not animals. semi auto guns are literally doing their job when they mow down lots of people in confined spaces the way a corvette does its job when it speeds down the highway. and i and other members of my family are gun owners, but i cant deny that the country would be far better off if these guns were not in existence.