Congestion pricing is passed in NYC? (23 dollar toll to drive into Midtown and Lower Manhattan)

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Check how much those monthly passes cost. And not everyone's job enables them to take public transport. Especially if they are transporting tools etc etc. Also. What happens
when public transport gets even more crowded?

Its not even worth entertaining the trolls. The only people who support this are

transplants who are clueless
rich folk
people who "have friends" in Manhattan but don't live there

etc....

trolls or people who DGAF about other NYers.

It'd be amazing to see what happened if the people who keep the city breathing decided to go on strike. How long would it last down there?


And if anyone who is foolish enough to support this doesn't fall in these catageroies...


here's some breaking news:

You're going to pay. You think utilities and services aren't going to go up to compensate for shyt like this? Enjoy the cost of living increase thats gonna come your way to make up the difference.
 

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Check how much those monthly passes cost. And not everyone's job enables them to take public transport. Especially if they are transporting tools etc etc. Also. What happens when public transport gets even more crowded?
Have you seen how much tolls for the GW, Holland Tunnel, and Lincoln Tunnel are??? Combine that with the NJ Turnpike tolls? The monthly passes are cheaper easily.

If you're in Harlem and need to get to Midtown take the subway :camby:
 
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Its not even worth entertaining the trolls. The only people who support this are

transplants who are clueless
rich folk
people who "have friends" in Manhattan but don't live there

etc....

trolls or people who DGAF about other NYers.

It'd be amazing to see what happened if the people who keep the city breathing decided to go on strike. How long would it last down there?


And if anyone who is foolish enough to support this doesn't fall in these catageroies...


here's some breaking news:

You're going to pay. You think utilities and services aren't going to go up to compensate for shyt like this? Enjoy the cost of living increase thats gonna come your way to make up the difference.
 

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Why are they punishing poor people? It's regressive policy for it to be a flat toll. It should be income based.

Rich people will toss out that 23 dollars like it's nothing. Should charge those bankers and advertising execs 500.00 to be out there
 

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Why are you even in here? Why are you quoting me?

You already said you're not a NYer.

You think posting a "source" from TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES would somehow give you any merit. This is the problem with the internet. A lot of people really live through the meta verse.

You have actual human beings on here 2 engage with and possibly learn something in this very thread.

don't bother replying to me if you just wanna keep trolling.
 
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Researchers say that the New York City metro area suffers roughly 1,400 premature deaths every year, and loses billions in health costs, strictly because of pollution caused by tens of thousands of trucks, cars and buses that traverse the area — the highest death toll in the northeast.

The Harvard and the University of North Carolina study of 12 states plus the District of Columbia found that New York state suffered 2,024 premature deaths in 2016 (the last year for which statistics are available) and the New York City metro area logged 1,404 deaths specifically linked to high amounts of fine particulate matter (PM2.5) and ozone (O3) — pollutants that contribute to poor air quality and lead to health problems like respiratory and cardiovascular diseases.

Edit: Some addtional excerpts on costs

And not only does vehicle pollution cost people their lives, but it’s also a burden financially. Health damages as a result of traffic emissions cost New York a whopping $21 billion in 2016, the researchers said.

And specifically, pollutants from buses in the New York City metro area had the largest marginal health impacts across all vehicle types and pollutants, costing about $4 million for every ton of particulate matter emitted, according to the study.
 
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