Coli TLR Narrative: "Kamala sent innocent Black Men to Prison"....Reality: "Of the 1,900 convictions she presided over, 45 went to actual prison"

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TheActualFinalPart said:
Given the stakes of this year’s election, and Trump’s unique willingness to disregard the legal constraints on his office, elevating Harris would send a dubious message.
Of course, Harris has been criticized on multiple occasions for fighting to keep people, including innocent ones, in prison. In the case of Daniel Larsen, an ex-felon sentenced to 27 years to life under California’s “three strikes” law, Harris argued “that even if Danny was innocent, his conviction should not be reversed because he waited too long to file his petition,” according to the California Innocence Project, which took Larsen’s case. And while her trenchant opposition to decarceration of the state’s prisons does align with those stories, her role in attempting to subvert the authority of the country’s highest legal body, for the sole purpose of preventing the release of a number of low-risk prisoners, has gone largely unchallenged.

Her role in blocking the Supreme Court’s prison reduction order is deeply troubling on multiple counts. First, with the increased salience of criminal justice reform in the Black Lives Matter era, a forceful opponent of decarceration on the ticket hardly conveys that the Democratic Party is on the side of racial justice. Second, placing someone with a history of defying the Supreme Court on the Democratic ticket would significantly undermine Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s pledge to return to the pre-Trump era of governance, where the three branches of government are seen as coequal and the courts are respected.

Biden plans to name his running mate next week. The importance of a vice-presidential pick is often overblown. There’s little reason to believe that it can influence the outcome of a presidential election one way or the other. But given the stakes of this year’s election, and Trump’s unique willingness to disregard the legal constraints on his office, elevating Harris would send a dubious message. And given Biden’s spoken commitment to serve just one term, Harris would immediately slot in as the most powerful VP in modern history, primed for a presidential run as a quasi-incumbent if Biden does win in November. It’s likely, too, given the age of liberal Supreme Court justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, both in their eighties, that a Biden administration and/or its successor will be in a position to appoint multiple judges.

Perhaps, if Harris had mounted a longer presidential campaign, these issues would have been raised on their own. But given her early departure, her record, in some senses, escaped a thorough vetting. In the time she’s transitioned from presidential hopeful to vice-presidential favorite, even some of her fiercest critics have changed their tune on her legacy. Last month, University of San Francisco law professor Lara Bazelon, who penned a much-talked-about 2019 New York Times op-ed titled “Kamala Harris Was Not a ‘Progressive Prosecutor,’” was quoted on NPR saying, instead, that Harris “did champion progressive causes … her record has been consistent, and it’s been good.” But as Harris’s work in the Plata case alone shows, that’s far from the truth. She has not only been a frequent enemy of progressive causes, but she’s opposed them in ways so dubious they threaten to undermine the very institutions in which she has served.

If Harris is to be picked as the second-highest-ranking executive officer in the land, it’s critical to have a full picture of her legacy as a lawyer and a politician. Joe Biden and the Democratic Party should be clearheaded about what message her elevation will send to the electorate about the party’s priorities.
 

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This article might be ignored, it might not even be read but if you're engaging the topic in good faith.

Then you should see that Harris was not good actually.

These "Both siders" posts are not written in good faith at all.

No one actually intends to learn anything and it's clearly about defending whoever is not a republican
to the bitterest of ends.

It is actually nonsensical, despicable behavior coming from adults.
 
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This thread is the perfect example of what is wrong with both siders. They're extremists. And you can't reason with an extremist.

This thread debunks a popular lie that has been circulated for years about Kamala Harris. And when confronted with the facts (or lack of facts) about this bogus claim, these people just double down on the hate. The narrative went from "Harris locked up thousands of black men for nothing" to "45 people is way too many people to go to prison". These both side ni66as are moving the goal post like it's a ping pong ball. In that respect, they're just as dangerous as the lunatics who vote for republican.

And it's not even about Kamala Harris being the AG, because they would hate anyone who was in that position for simply doing their job. These people don't make the laws. They enforce them. The only way to change the laws you dont like is to...drumroll please...VOTE for the people who will.

You actually aren't interested in learning anything.

1. It's already been stated that a lot of lives were affected by her time as AG.

2. I've posted two articles now which are not only critical of her tenure as AG but also outline what she did
as AG.

It's not being read and it's not being examined because it goes against how you feel, not what she actually did.
 

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You actually aren't interested in learning anything.

1. It's already been stated that a lot of lives were affected by her time as AG.

2. I've posted two articles now which are not only critical of her tenure as AG but also outline what she did
as AG.

It's not being read and it's not being examined because it goes against how you feel, not what she actually did.
Nah, he’s right.

Mfers in here are constantly on some shyt, always trying to push their narrative regardless. And, very little have anything tangible to offer other than criticism of other people’s actions.

You being dishonest by shifting it to him saying he doesn’t want to learn. The fact is most people here want to shyt on others, especially when it comes to political parties.

Even the article you offered doesn’t change shyt and isn’t some big reveal, just more mindless musings by people who aren’t in charge of anything but their opinions.

Some of yall just aren’t being realistic, just idealistic fools. Constantly on some smoking gun shyt…
 

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Nah, he’s right.

Mfers in here are constantly on some shyt, always trying to push their narrative regardless. And, very little have anything tangible to offer other than criticism of other people’s actions.

You being dishonest by shifting it to him saying he doesn’t want to learn. The fact is most people here want to shyt on others, especially when it comes to political parties.

Even the article you offered doesn’t change shyt and isn’t some big reveal, just more mindless musings by people who aren’t in charge of anything but their opinions.

Some of yall just aren’t being realistic, just idealistic fools. Constantly on some smoking gun shyt…


You didn't even read the article.

How the fukk is actively defying the fukking supreme court "mindless musings" ?

Kamala's Time as AG said:
This extreme resistance to a Supreme Court ruling was done to prevent the release of fewer than 5,000 nonviolent offenders, whom multiple courts had cleared as presenting next to no risk of recidivism or threat to public safety.


It soon became clear that the state would hold out on complying with the judicial order. 2011 passed with little progress made on the decarceration mandate, and by 2012, a report surfaced that proved the state actually intended to increase its prison population. In May of that year, Harris’s office “confirmed their intent not to comply with the Order but instead to seek its modification from 137.5 percent design capacity to 145 percent,” a modification that was not permitted. The deadline for compliance was eventually extended to the end of 2013.


This is what I'm talking about.

Y'all don't look into shyt and just write people off as "Ignorant extremists".

It's typical, smug liberal bullshyt that isn't founded in reality.
 

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You didn't even read the article.

How the fukk is actively defying the fukking supreme court "mindless musings" ?



This is what I'm talking about.

Y'all don't look into shyt and just write people off as "Ignorant extremists".

It's typical, smug liberal bullshyt that isn't founded in reality.
Still, mindless musings from people. Can’t you tell an Op piece when you see one?

I read the damn article. There’s no bombshell that was revealed, homie. Y’all just like to keep your opinions valid regardless of facts. That’s why you’re holding on to such a small, pointless opinion about something.

Oh, this one writer theorized this or believes this…

You use one small piece of information to keep your views alive.

And :mjlol: At calling me a liberal. Thanks for proving my point about the simplistic nature of your views.

nikkas will go on and on in this bytch pushing straight opinions, I don’t expect that to change because we’re talking about the election or candidates.

That’s just the nature of this forum.
 

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Well, if you don't care enough to give a straight answer than I don't care enough to decipher your riddles.
Riddles?, as a black man, nothing I said was vague, if speaking out against brutality = defending criminals to you, like I said there is nothing more to discuss. If kalief browder got what he deserved then there's nothing else to discuss.

Edit* I'm not here to dissuade anyone from voting, just noticing and wondering how much evil you guys are willing hold nose for until the stench becomes too much.
 
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So basically you guys are no different than the blue lives matter, it's just you feel bad when it happens.

You guys are just phony and it's no surprise that you guys have to brow beat and shame others into voting
At the bolded part - You summed up him and a lot of his ilk on thecoli perfectly. Just a bunch of performative crybullies that think they are smarter than they actually are.
 

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This article might be ignored, it might not even be read but if you're engaging the topic in good faith.

Then you should see that Harris was not good actually.

These "Both siders" posts are not written in good faith at all.

No one actually intends to learn anything and it's clearly about defending whoever is not a republican
to the bitterest of ends.

It is actually nonsensical, despicable behavior coming from adults.
It is what it is, I guess people think they going to win dems vote arguing pointless points on the coli

All ima ask is either side going to talk about real things they plan on doing to improve conditions, fix problems, adapting to changing globe?

Folks arguing about blackness and other goofy shyt but people is fukked up out here across the board and all ages

And y’all about to let these people bullshyt y’all till November?
 

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Republicans: Kamala Harris locked up black men on marijuana charges.

Reality: In 2006, then-California District Attorney Kamala Harris spoke about the challenges of reforming the criminal justice system and how she believed it was failing African Americans.

FACT: Yes, Kamala Harris prosecuted some Black men on marijuana charges because that was her job as District Attorney. She didn't write the laws; she was tasked with enforcing them. However, she also pushed for rehabilitation over prison in many cases.

FACT: Once she became Attorney General, Senator, and Vice President, and had the ability to sponsor and pass laws, she fought tirelessly to decriminalize marijuana and to keep Black men and women out of jail.


To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196
 

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1/1
Republicans: Kamala Harris locked up black men on marijuana charges.

Reality: In 2006, then-California District Attorney Kamala Harris spoke about the challenges of reforming the criminal justice system and how she believed it was failing African Americans.

FACT: Yes, Kamala Harris prosecuted some Black men on marijuana charges because that was her job as District Attorney. She didn't write the laws; she was tasked with enforcing them. However, she also pushed for rehabilitation over prison in many cases.

FACT: Once she became Attorney General, Senator, and Vice President, and had the ability to sponsor and pass laws, she fought tirelessly to decriminalize marijuana and to keep Black men and women out of jail.


To post tweets in this format, more info here: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/tips-and-tricks-for-posting-the-coli-megathread.984734/post-52211196

by 2006 she was already a prosecutor for near 2 decades :heh:
 
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