Coli men: What does your ideal woman get from you?

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I was in no way suggesting that he was single because he doesn't "simp."I'm saying if a man asks me out on a date,then he needs to have the funds to pay for that first date. If a man approaches me on some "Hello, blah blah,I would love to take you out to so & so," he needs to have the coins.It's common courtesy

Maybe it was the way I was brought up?:yeshrug: My dad was a military man & knew how to court a woman.
Okay, but why are you asking if he pays for the 1st date?
Like, what are you getting at with that questioning?


I mean, my first date with my girl, I went to pay and she insisted we split the check. I'm just traditional in that way but she was adamant about squaring it up. So I was like, cool.
She basically set the ground rules subtly right there. There's other ways I take charge but she aint gonna be bought like that...so to speak. So we developed an understanding early on, and over the last few months.

I think a lot of women don't make enough of an effort to clarify what she's expecting and what she's offering.

But I don't really have a dog in this fight/thread.

I'm just observing.

:coffee:
 

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I'm not gonna lie, that's a good question Teedot.

See, I used to be one of those dudes that would go the extra mile in all my relationships. Take them out on dates, genuinely care, etc. I don't mean simping either, I'd have my standards and requirements, and if they hit them, it'd be a mutual thing from there on. But the thing is, over time, people wear you down. People change you. You start off first dating wanting to do everything for your girl because seeing her happy made you happy. Then that falls through. And the next one does. And the next. Then you don't want to pour as much of yourself anymore. Things don't move you as much anymore. You start raising the bar higher and higher, subconsciously knowing that nobody will be able to clear it. And suddenly, you stop bringing things to the table.

I'm somewhere in that cycle right now, and I think that a lot of posters here are too. So to be honest, no. I don't know what my ideal woman would get from me right now.
I understand that 100% great post hun.
 

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you must have been used by a gold digger because you associate a woman needing money from a man as gold digging.
and you wont have a wife by being selfish.

why would a woman need money from a man?
its 2015

if I'm not married to you why should I hand over my money?

be more financially responsible
 

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I'm not gonna lie, that's a good question Teedot.

See, I used to be one of those dudes that would go the extra mile in all my relationships. Take them out on dates, genuinely care, etc. I don't mean simping either, I'd have my standards and requirements, and if they hit them, it'd be a mutual thing from there on. But the thing is, over time, people wear you down. People change you. You start off first dating wanting to do everything for your girl because seeing her happy made you happy. Then that falls through. And the next one does. And the next. Then you don't want to pour as much of yourself anymore. Things don't move you as much anymore. You start raising the bar higher and higher, subconsciously knowing that nobody will be able to clear it. And suddenly, you stop bringing things to the table.

I'm somewhere in that cycle right now, and I think that a lot of posters here are too. So to be honest, no. I don't know what my ideal woman would get from me right now.
you've gotta fight for the patriarchy :wow:
 

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why would a woman need money from a man?
its 2015

if I'm not married to you why should I hand over my money?

be more financially responsible
what does 2015 got to do with anything? What woman is going to marry a man that has BASIC limits to what he would do for her? Why would a woman marry a man who would not give her money in need when she can pick a man who would do that for her? you use the excuse that every woman asking for money is a gold digger cause you are selfish and materialistic.
 

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what does 2015 got to do with anything? What woman is going to marry a man that has BASIC limits to what he would do for her? Why would a woman marry a man who would not give her money in need when she can pick a man who would do that for her? you use the excuse that every woman asking for money is a gold digger cause you are selfish and materialistic.

:mjlol:


oh reinscarf i owe 5,000, it's in collections they are coming after me, if you love me like you say you do please can i borrow the 5,000. I promise I'll pay you back, i love you

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Okay, but why are you asking if he pays for the 1st date?
Like, what are you getting at with that questioning?


I mean, my first date with my girl, I went to pay and she insisted we split the check. I'm just traditional in that way but she was adamant about squaring it up. So I was like, cool.
She basically set the ground rules subtly right there. There's other ways I take charge but she aint gonna be bought like that...so to speak. So we developed an understanding early on, and over the last few months.

I think a lot of women don't make enough of an effort to clarify what she's expecting and what she's offering.

But I don't really have a dog in this fight/thread.

I'm just observing.

:coffee:

I'm getting at the main theme of his argument with that question.:mjlol:
He said he is not spending any money on someone who is not his wife, a girl whom he asks out on a date is not his wife.& Awww,that was sweet of your girl.

However,I feel that if you asks me out on a date & you pay that is very polite and shows me that you know how to be a gentlemen.Paying on the first date, holding doors,etc shows me that you have some kind of home training & I value that.I remember going out with this one guy & not only did he pay for our date, he held the door opened for me & when we were at the movies he told me to sit on the inside because I'm the lady.It's not necessarily about the money,it's about do you know how to treat a woman?I can tell alot about your character from that first date.
 

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Hmm... I think people that know me can answer better than I can. But I think me being career minded, having a sense of humor and overall taking care of myself physically mentally and things like that are positives. Plus I can get along with almost anybody, be compromising and can actually have a conversation is something I don't see a lot of. I don't really know what else to add though. Maybe some of y'all ladies can ask or tell what you would like.
 

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what does 2015 got to do with anything? What woman is going to marry a man that has BASIC limits to what he would do for her? Why would a woman marry a man who would not give her money in need when she can pick a man who would do that for her? you use the excuse that every woman asking for money is a gold digger cause you are selfish and materialistic.

Giving money to a woman in need doesn't strengthen a relationship, it only leads to being taken advantage of. Plus a women in need of money probably doesn't make sound financial decisions and is likely not a good mate. :scust:
 

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Hometown of Cherokee at Law
-The best bodyguard she can get...he lives, sleeps, and goes wherever with her....

-Snarky, snide remarks with some sarcasm to top it off...

-An almost empty slate when it comes to sex...

-A self-defense trainer...

-A live-in artist...

-Possibly a very INTERESTING father of her offspring...

so basically she gets nothing :dead:
So it sounds like what a man "brings to the table" are tangible/material things...
 
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