Cold War II: The United States vs Trump and Co. A Russian Affair

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Very short sighted but carry on. You don’t beat Trump in 2020 by letting the Senate sit back now and not have to cover his ass on this issue
Nah. Impeachment at this point is more about liberal outrage at Trump being President than actual rationale. Pelosi made a good point when she said its better to have an iron clad case. Get Trump Org financial documents. Get Trump taxes. If there is anything really bad in them such as white collar crime, put that with the current facts from the Mueller conclusions, you got a case.
 

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Nah. Impeachment at this point is more about liberal outrage at Trump being President than actual rationale. Pelosi made a good point when she said its better to have an iron clad case. Get Trump Org financial documents. Get Trump taxes. If there is anything really bad in them such as white collar crime, put that with the current facts from the Mueller conclusions, you got a case.
All of that is done much more easily with impeachment inquiry........
 

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make the republicans vote if they want to keep trump around...not impeaching gives republicans an easy win...republicans dont even have to deal with the impeachment to get the result they desire...dems should force the republicans to DO SOMETHING to save trump...

dems aint going to win an election off not impeaching trump...fukk they gon say?: vote for us because we didnt impeach trump even though we gave a bunch of reasons why he shouldve been impeached...

They keep reminding us they can’t get anything past the senate so what are these policy wins they plan on running on?

Just talking about this gets me heated.
 

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Nah. Impeachment at this point is more about liberal outrage at Trump being President than actual rationale. Pelosi made a good point when she said its better to have an iron clad case. Get Trump Org financial documents. Get Trump taxes. If there is anything really bad in them such as white collar crime, put that with the current facts from the Mueller conclusions, you got a case.
We don't need financial documents. Trump committed over 5 acts of obstruction of justice clearly outlined in the Mueller report
 

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Nah. Impeachment at this point is more about liberal outrage at Trump being President than actual rationale. Pelosi made a good point when she said its better to have an iron clad case. Get Trump Org financial documents. Get Trump taxes. If there is anything really bad in them such as white collar crime, put that with the current facts from the Mueller conclusions, you got a case.
Pelosi also said hes committing impeachable offenses almost everyday. :stopitslime:

Outraged should be a nation of citizens allowing Trump and his astonishing inept cabinet who are making a mockery of this country and our standing in the world amongst dozens of other harmful side effects. The administration is mad toxic and they don't give a fukk who knows or they just blatantly lie while they cover up an even bigger mess. They have to be held accountable or It's going to get even worse. :hhh:

Lindsey Graham:hhh: said it was about cleansing the office. And he's right. Now he's a fukking Trump Zombie like the rest of em. Invasion of the body snatchers steeze.

Gotta wake up now or never.
 

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to be honest, i'm not willing to give pelosi even the slightest benefit of the doubt.

look the thing about dem leadership/establishment dems is that the thing they fear the most....which history has shown they will resist at all costs is that they be labeled as or grouped in with the liberal/progressive wing of the party. and right now, the major donors/big business/wall street etc are not pushing for impeachment. obviously it wouldn't be good for business. impeachment, to them is "unserious" or "an overreaction" or "potentially traumatic to the country." this bytch is just taking her orders.
 

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to be honest, i'm not willing to give pelosi even the slightest benefit of the doubt.

look the thing about dem leadership/establishment dems is that the thing they fear the most....which history has shown they will resist at all costs is that they be labeled as or grouped in with the liberal/progressive wing of the party. and right now, the major donors/big business/wall street etc are not pushing for impeachment. obviously it wouldn't be good for business. impeachment, to them is "unserious" or "an overreaction" or "potentially traumatic to the country." this bytch is just taking her orders.
In other words, she’s compromised too
 
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We don't need financial documents. Trump committed over 5 acts of obstruction of justice clearly outlined in the Mueller report
Obstruction of Justice alone will not remove Trump from office.

Trump has set the bar high for himself due to his ability to be teflon through all the lies and scandals. He was an unindicted co-conspirator in the Stormy Daniels case and he walked through that fine. The bar was conspiracy or bust, and the consequence for Trump is removal from office or bust. Impeachment in the House while the Senate keeps him in office is not a consequence for Trump. It won't weaken his ability to get re-elected like it potentially would any other President. So then you're back to square one and Trump and the GOP claims victory. The GOP media brainwashes people including some moderates on the Democrats being out to get him, and Trumpism stays alive.
 
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