Cold War II: The United States vs Trump and Co. A Russian Affair

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I highly doubt Nunes is getting indicted. All these twitter speculators are jokes and they rallied up people for 2 years straight only to help disappoint thousands of people.

Take for example this moron here. Read the last two months of his tweets. It's all fairy tale bullshyt. Before Barr became full Trump loyalist, this guy was going around telling people that Trump was possibly in a resignation deal with Barr to save his skin last month. Tom Joseph (@TomJChicago) on Twitter
I think the Twitter fervor is more because Nunes is actually in agreement with Schiff on anything. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that Nunes is dying to see who has been implicated in the counterintel investigation because chances are high that he's in there.
 

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I'm sure you didn't even read the article you're just here to concern troll.


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i dont even know what "concern trolling" is. but i see you use it a lot, so ill give it a shot: is it trying to realistically predict how things will play out in the real world, even if it hurts HL posters feelings?
 

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I think the Twitter fervor is more because Nunes is actually in agreement with Schiff on anything. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that Nunes is dying to see who has been implicated in the counterintel investigation because chances are high that he's in there.
He wants to do the same thing he's been doing for the last two years. Read the secret intelligence to publicly accuse the FBI/Mueller of bias, improper investigative techniques, coup, etc. Just to get Trump and his base up in arms. Seeing spin off federal investigations will just allow him to tip those people off in private.
 

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I'm sure you didn't even read the article you're just here to concern troll.


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Of course he didn't. Only an apologist would even attempt to make the argument he's trying to make since it's been documented on more than one occasion when Trump first got in bed with the mob. The man who has never had a successful business managed to go from a negative net worth of around a billion dollars and relying on credit to making several hundred millions of dollars a year.
 

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wait a second, those fukkin tax returns are from 85 to 94 :beli:

when rachel maddow embarrassed herself with the exclusive return report, she showed that in 2005 he made like 150 million and paid 35 million in taxes. they have to get something from AFTER that

You're so busy being contrarian that the point is hitting you in the face. If he was in a hole for a billi in the 90's how exactly did he immaculately recover to start making that kind of money yearly.

his investments recovered? he had a hugely profitable TV show? :dead:

sorry breh, you gotta impress me. this aint it :jaypatr:

So from 1995 to 2004 how was he keeping afloat. The Apprentice didn't start until 2004. Wiki says,

After recovering from a series of financial setbacks in the early 1990s, New York real-estate developer Donald Trump changed his business strategy from borrowing to build and purchase assets, to licensing his name to others. Producer Mark Burnett approached Trump about a new television show. Although Trump was skeptical, stating that reality television "was for the bottom-feeders of society", Burnett proposed that Trump appear as himself, a successful businessman with a luxurious lifestyle.[4]

The show was co-produced by Burnett and Trump, its first season having aired in early 2004. The premise of the show, which bills itself as the "ultimate job interview" in the "ultimate jungle", is to conduct a job talent search for a person to head one of Trump's companies. The position starts with an introductory one-year contract with a starting yearly salary of $250,000.

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The Apprentice was so successful that, according to Trump, he earned $214 million from 14 seasons of the show, plus more from related product licensing as his name as a brand became more valuable.[4] As the popularity of the series grew, more and more of the tasks began to be tied to specific companies. For example, sales tasks would require a team to take over a brand-name storefront or restaurant and operate it; and marketing tasks would require teams to prepare marketing material (e.g. a jingle or flyer) or campaign for an established company. In later series, the launches of specific products would be tied to the airing of episodes of the series. Several companies have appeared multiple times on the show.

Speaking of "recovering from a series of financial setbacks, wiki also says,

Allegations of business links to organized crime
Journalists David Cay Johnston and Wayne Barrett, the latter of whom wrote an unauthorized 1992 Trump biography, have claimed that Trump and his companies did business with New York and Philadelphia families linked to the Italian-American Mafia.[198][199] A reporter for The Washington Post writes, "he was never accused of illegality, and observers of the time say that working with the mob-related figures and politicos came with the territory."[200]

Trump helped a financier for the Scarfo family get a casino license, and constructed a casino using firms controlled by Nicodemo Scarfo.[201] Trump also bought real estate from Philadelphia crime family member Salvatore Testa, and bought concrete from companies associated with the Genovese crime family and the Gambino crime family.[198][199][200] Trump Plaza paid a $450,000 fine leveled by the Casino Gaming Commission for giving $1.6 million in rare automobiles to Robert LiButti, the acquaintance of John Gotti already mentioned.[29]

Starting in 2003, the Trump Organization worked with Felix Sater, who had a 1998 racketeering conviction for a $40 million stock fraud scheme orchestrated by the Russian mafia, and who had then become an informant against the mafia.[202][203] Trump's attorney has said that Sater worked with Trump scouting real estate opportunities, but was never formally employed.[204]

Use of bankruptcy laws
Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy, but hotel and casino businesses of his have been declared bankrupt four times between 1991 and 2009 to re-negotiate debt with banks and owners of stock and bonds.[205][206] Because the businesses used Chapter 11 bankruptcy, they were allowed to operate while negotiations proceeded. Trump was quoted by Newsweek in 2011 saying, "I do play with the bankruptcy laws – they're very good for me" as a tool for trimming debt.[82][207]

According to a report by Forbes in 2011, the four bankruptcies were the result of over-leveraged hotel and casino businesses in Atlantic City: Trump's Taj Mahal (1991), Trump Plaza Hotel (1992), Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts (2004), and Trump Entertainment Resorts (2009).[208][209] Trump said "I've used the laws of this country to pare debt.... We'll have the company. We'll throw it into a chapter. We'll negotiate with the banks. We'll make a fantastic deal. You know, it's like on The Apprentice. It's not personal. It's just business."[210] He indicated that many "great entrepreneurs" do the same.[208]

1991
In 1991, Trump Taj Mahal was unable to service its debt and filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy.[210] Forbes indicated that this first bankruptcy was the only one where Trump's personal financial resources were involved. Time, however, maintains that $72 million of his personal money was also involved in a later 2004 bankruptcy.[211]

1992
On November 2, 1992, the Trump Plaza Hotel filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy, and Trump lost his 49 percent stake in the luxury hotel to Citibank and five other lenders.[212] In return Trump received more favorable terms on the remaining $550+ million owed to the lenders, and retain his position as chief executive, though he would not be paid and would not have a role in day-to-day operations.[213]

1994
Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino closed in 2014
By 1994, Trump had eliminated a large portion of his $900 million personal debt through sales of his Trump Taj Mahal and Trump Plaza assets,[214] and significantly reduced his nearly $3.5 billion in business debt. Although he lost the Trump Princess yacht and the Trump Shuttle (which he had bought in 1989), he did retain Trump Tower in New York City and control of three casinos in Atlantic City, including Trump's Castle. Trump sold his ownership of West Side Yards (now Riverside South, Manhattan) to Chinese developers including Hong Kong's New World Development, receiving a premium price in exchange for the use and display of the name "Trump" on the buildings.[215]

2004
Donald Trump's third corporate bankruptcy was on October 21, 2004, involving Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts, the publicly-traded holding company for his three Atlantic City casinos and some others.[216] Trump lost over half of his 56% ownership and gave bondholders stock in exchange for surrendering part of the debt. No longer CEO, Trump retained a role as chairman of the board. In May 2005[217] the company emerged from bankruptcy as Trump Entertainment Resorts Holdings.[218] In his 2007 book, Think BIG and Kick Ass in Business and Life, Trump wrote: "I figured it was the bank's problem, not mine. What the hell did I care? I actually told one bank, 'I told you you shouldn't have loaned me that money. I told you the goddamn deal was no good.'"[219]
 

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So from 1995 to 2004 how was he keeping afloat. The Apprentice didn't start until 2004. Wiki says,



Speaking of "recovering from a series of financial setbacks, wiki also says,
im sure that his current tax returns are similar to the ones from the 90s. i hope the dems get them :ehh:i want the dem to be able to laugh in his fukkin face on the debate stage with hard, embarrassing evidence.

shyt, i've said i think they should make it their number one goal :dead: not fukkin russia
 

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So from 1995 to 2004 how was he keeping afloat. The Apprentice didn't start until 2004. Wiki says,



Speaking of "recovering from a series of financial setbacks, wiki also says,
Wait until the money laundering comes to light over the last 20 years :mjthanos:
 
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