Christians, Jews, Muslims, Catholics, and the NOI all believe in the same God.

[Johnny Kilroy]

do you believe reality was spoken into existence or not?

Spoiler

Gematria value of big yushke is 731 - English, Hebrew and Simple Gematria Calculator Values
Yodh - Wikipedia

@Koichos

https://www.thecoli.com/posts/40539374/

To be honest, I’m not really concerned with the “how” of creation anymore. I see why it matters to some, but I’m at a point where that’s irrelevant to me.

This physical world is bound by proven laws. Anyone can say anything takes place outside of the laws as long as they're not asked to provide proof.

I deal with what is. The time is always now. You can speculate on what was or wasn't or what will or won't be. But the past and future don't really exist. It's only our imagination. The only time is now.

Read Galatians. Paul details his meetings with Jesus' brother, James, and Peter (Cephas). Both were direct witnesses to Jesus and would have corrected anything he didn't get right.​

You're just proving my point that Paul was a greater influence.

You're following a message delivered by someone who learned it from someone who learned it from someone, dating all the way back to Paul who learned it from... Jesus? No.

 

[MMS]

To be honest, I’m not really concerned with the “how” of creation anymore. I see why it matters to some, but I’m at a point where that’s irrelevant to me.

This physical world is bound by proven laws. Anyone can say anything takes place outside of the laws as long as they're not asked to provide proof.

I deal with what is. The time is always now. You can speculate on what was or wasn't or what will or won't be. But the past and future don't really exist. It's only our imagination. The only time is now.



You're just proving my point that Paul was a greater influence.

You're following a message delivered by someone who learned it from someone who learned it from someone, dating all the way back to Paul who learned it from... Jesus? No.

I agree with this

but within that same context, creation then becomes one eternal living moment everything exists within the first day of creation

it would read like this:

jꜣḫwḥḥ

YAKH-HU-HEH:

Iah - Wikipedia
Moon, Light of the New Moon

Hu (mythology) - Wikipedia
spoken word. He personifies the authority of utterance.

Heh (god) - Wikipedia
Flood, Infinity/eternity, watery chaos

"Divine Light and Utterance of Eternity"

then compare those descriptions to Ptah who had largely been forgotten by most of the kingdom
Ptah - Wikipedia

 

[Diunx]

They are all wrong, religion is for children and fools.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

I agree with this

but within that same context, creation then becomes one eternal living moment everything exists within the first day of creation

I agree. The first day, the last day and everything in between. Everything is now.

People argue about what Jesus said 2000 years ago while ignoring what Christ is saying right now.

A living God, right? So why focus on things “past” while the miracles of life are ever present?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

You're just proving my point that Paul was a greater influence.

You're following a message delivered by someone who learned it from someone who learned it from someone, dating all the way back to Paul who learned it from... Jesus? No.

The message is the SAME one delivered by Jesus, himself, and verified by multiple, independent eyewitnesses. This is what Paul and Peter both taught in Rome and were executed for (at the same time) according to Dionysius, the Bishop of Corinth.

Paul's influence wasn't 'greater' in the sense you mean, however. Just better articulated.​

 

[Xerces]

The Son is incarnate. He's the physical form of God that we know as Yeshua Hamashiach ( Christ in English). He died and rose from the dead in an everlasting body, a body that every believer will get when He opens the sky and makes His return.


Call us crazy or whatever, when that sky cracks open and the Armies of Heaven come through, it's go time

yup! Jesus isn’t coming back humble. He’s coming back about to get his mass smiting on

people are arrogant, they believe in their own “ goodness” or “ self righteousness”

I am a “ good person” by worldly standards, but if my Guardian Angel came down right now, and was fed up with my crap, and wanted to give me that heavenly divine stold cold stunner, I deserve it



Having self awareness is half the battle

 

[MMS]

I agree. The first day, the last day and everything in between. Everything is now.

People argue about what Jesus said 2000 years ago while ignoring what Christ is saying right now.

A living God, right? So why focus on things “past” while the miracles of life are ever present?

sin

Typhon - Wikipedia

this myth is a very good way of explaining how it really works

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

The message is the SAME one delivered by Jesus, himself, and verified by multiple, independent eyewitnesses. This is what Paul and Peter both taught in Rome and were executed for (at the same time) according to Dionysius, the Bishop of Corinth.

Paul's influence wasn't 'greater' in the sense you mean, however. Just better articulated.​

Jesus said he was sent to the lost sheep of Israel. Paul turned him into the world's messiah.

But he confused the message. Jesus taught his followers to be their own messiah. He taught that the kingdom of God was within and the only way to reach it was to accept Christ as a consciousness. "He who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him." " You are God's temple and God's spirit dwells within you." etc.

You seem to be following the teachings of Paul, not Jesus. Paul never met Jesus and Jesus never co-signed anything he taught. Same for Muslims who follow a Quran and Sunnah that didn't exist in the time of Muhammad.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

sin

Typhon - Wikipedia

this myth is a very good way of explaining how it really works

Myths teach lessons and attempt to explain the inexplicable.

The NOI had their own mythology too. It's frowned upon simply because it hasn't been around for thousands of years. But honestly, a big headed scientist cloning human beings is a lot more believable than most other myths.

The purpose for the NOI mythology was to uplift a people who had their human dignity stripped away. No NOI leaders actually believe the white man is the devil, but it was said to boost the self esteem of a people who needed it.

Now, was it the best tactic, that's debatable. But at the end of the day, all of these myths are man made. Inspired by God? Sure, EVERYTHING is inspired by God. But certainly not to be taken literally. Get the lessons and KIM.

 

[MMS]

Jesus said he was sent to the lost sheep of Israel. Paul turned him into the world's messiah.

But he confused the message. Jesus taught his followers to be their own messiah. He taught that the kingdom of God was within and the only way to reach it was to accept Christ as a consciousness. "He who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him." " You are God's temple and God's spirit dwells within you." etc.

You seem to be following the teachings of Paul, not Jesus. Paul never met Jesus and Jesus never co-signed anything he taught. Same for Muslims who follow a Quran and Sunnah that didn't exist in the time of Muhammad.

there is two halves of this belief process though breh

The spirit of God dwells in creation period. God speaks to us not just in your mind but through creation itself. But it requires true repentance and humility.

There is a fine line between Luciferianism and humble belief and walking with God.

Do you wish to honour the body of Christ? Do not ignore him when he is naked. Do not pay him homage in the temple clad in silk, only then to neglect him outside where he is cold and ill-clad. He who said: "This is my body" is the same who said: "You saw me hungry and you gave me no food", and "Whatever you did to the least of my brothers you did also to me"... What good is it if the Eucharistic table is overloaded with golden chalices when your brother is dying of hunger? Start by satisfying his hunger and then with what is left you may adorn the altar as well.[26]

EDIT - the only thing Paul advocated that was not advocated by Jesus was laxing judaic laws.

Judaizers - Wikipedia

 

[MMS]

Myths teach lessons and attempt to explain the inexplicable.

The NOI had their own mythology too. It's frowned upon simply because it hasn't been around for thousands of years. But honestly, a big headed scientist cloning human beings is a lot more believable than most other myths.

The purpose for the NOI mythology was to uplift a people who had their human dignity stripped away. No NOI leaders actually believe the white man is the devil, but it was said to boost the self esteem of a people who needed it.

Now, was it the best tactic, that's debatable. But at the end of the day, all of these myths are man made. Inspired by God? Sure, EVERYTHING is inspired by God. But certainly not to be taken literally. Get the lessons and KIM.

its probably more true than many would like to admit

imo the races were formed for a variety of reasons but the main one being "what men want" vs "what women want" playing out over eternity.

in other words: lifestyles and beliefs could have literally taken africans and turned them into a variety of people over millenia. Then you have deliberate breeding like what was done in America in slave plantations...its important to consider this

when you look at farm animals its easy to forget that none of those animals are actually natural.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Jesus said he was sent to the lost sheep of Israel. Paul turned him into the world's messiah.

Jesus was ALWAYS the 'world's Messiah'. That's why he saved the Canaanite woman's daughter.

The one who confused the message was Muhammad since he never met Jesus or knew anyone who had interacted with him, unlike Paul. He also confused what Jews and Christians considered "orthodox", also, unlike Paul.​

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

there is two halves of this belief process though breh

The spirit of God dwells in creation period. God speaks to us not just in your mind but through creation itself. But it requires true repentance and humility.

There is a fine line between Luciferianism and humble belief and walking with God.

When I say I am God, it is the most humbling thing a man can say. It's acknowledging that EVERYONE and EVERYTHING is God as well. Suddenly, I can't kill an ant, be cause the ant is me. I can't hurt another human being because that person is me. I can't destroy the Earth because it's also me.

People are afraid of the truth because they're so used to lies. We're taught God is mean and vengeful and just waiting to push that "detonate" button on creation. That has become the image of God. That and a white man with a long beard. So when one says they are God these are the types of images others invoke. Wrath, rage, jealousy, vengefulness. I know God as love, mercy, compassion.

Most men prefer to follow so it's easier to just do that. It relieves then of any personal responsibility. "Jesus will save the world, all I have to do is believe." That's what the powers that be want us to believe so we'll sit by idly and let life pass us by while they control all the resources.

Religion has been a tool of control for a long time and it relies on the laziness and gullibleness of the people.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Jesus was ALWAYS the 'world's Messiah'. That's why he saved the Canaanite woman's daughter.

The one who confused the message was Muhammad since he never met Jesus or knew anyone who had interacted with him, unlike Paul. He also confused what Jews and Christians considered "orthodox", also, unlike Paul.​

That's what you say but that's not what the Bible says. "I was sent only to those being lost sheep of the house of Israel."

You don't follow the teachings of Christ, breh. You follow Paul's interpretation of the teachings of Christ.

And Paul never met Jesus despite you falsely claiming so. But hey, say it enough times and maybe people will believe that too.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

That's what you say but that's not what the Bible says. "I was sent only to those being lost sheep of the house of Israel."

It's also what the text states at Matthew 15:21-28 and Mark 5:21-43. The context is amplified in Matthew 22:1-14.

Reading one verse, out-of-context, leads to invalid interpretations.

I follow common sense.​