Christianity is NOT a white religion.

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not sure how you came to that conclusion based on what i said.
I never said that nobody is ever immoral
I came to that based on you stating that society dictates morality. Since there are multitudes of societies, there can be no objective morality, so calling something moral or immoral is just an opinion.​
 

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Yall can believe this bullshyt about the Bible not being real if you want to
The most high blesses the humble with Discernment.

start at 49:00 mark and eat :eat:
Nothing but knowledge about these tricksters and evil doers being dropped

 

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I came to that based on you stating that society dictates morality. Since there are multitudes of societies, there can be no objective morality, so calling something moral or immoral is just an opinion.​
Yes, that's right. Even the morality written into the bible was the opinion of its authors.
 

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Sure, based on the society they were in and the surrounding societies they interacted with.

So, is child abuse objectively wrong?
Again i would only describe something as "objectively" one way or another if it can be proven scientifically. Example; it is proven objectively that gravity exists. It is proven objectively that exposure to sun rays can cause sunburn. Can you prove scientifically that its bad to abuse kids? I don't think that's something that can be determined by science. Morality isn't determined in a science lab through experiments and whatnot
But it is clear the child abuse is wrong subjectively, because almost every government on earth has written laws against it, and punishments for those who violate said laws. Society has clearly decided its stance on the morality of child abuse.
 

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Can you prove scientifically that its bad to abuse kids? I don't think that's something that can be determined by science.
Morality isn't determined in a science lab through experiments and whatnot
Objective morality can't.​
But it is clear the child abuse is wrong subjectively, because almost every government on earth has written laws against it, and punishments for those who violate said laws. Society has clearly decided its stance on the morality of child abuse.
Neither society nor governments have objectively determined what constitutes child abuse so it's morality is still in-question and, ultimately, depends on where you live.​
 

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Actually, it can....


Objective morality can't.

Neither society nor governments have objectively determined what constitutes child abuse.​
That's proving that child abuse has negative consequences for the kid. Not proving that child abuse is morally wrong.
Killing cows has negative consequences for the cow, but that doesn't mean its scientifically proven that not being vegan is morally incorrect.
Not sure why you continue to debate such a simple concept. There is not scientific parameter for right and wrong. No control to use in a test setting.
No way to repeat to same experiment and come up with the same exact outcome every single proving the thesis correct.
 

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What point are you trying make exactly?
That you can't say ANYTHING is moral/immoral without an objective standard by which to judge. A subjective opinion isn't binding on anyone else. Sure, you can enact laws and whatnot, but they have no power outside of the society enacting them.​
 

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That you can't say ANYTHING is moral/immoral without an objective standard by which to judge. A subjective opinion isn't binding on anyone else. Sure, you can enact laws and whatnot, but they have no power outside of the society enacting them.​
we just established that there is no objective standard for morality :dead:
Nevermind breh, i'm done with this
 
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