China’s Male Leaders Signal to Women That Their Place Is in the Home

[papa pimp]

America would have a falling birth rate if not for immigration.

Its not just immigration but having immigration at the foundational core that helps blunt demographic cliffs for countries on this side of the world:

How a Vast Demographic Shift Will Reshape the World

Even in European countries where you see plenty of migration, you will still see a steep decline. Germany admitted that even with laxer immigration laws, they will still need to rely on automation heavily to blunt demographic decline impact.

It also helps that the US has destabilized dozens of countries and then takes advantage of the brain drain. I doubt that aspect of immigration policy would be mentioned in here though since its not rosy.

 

[The Radiant One]

Long working hours in Japan are due to tradition not COL especially in Japan the yen is weak and salary men work long hours simply because they are expected to they have these meetings and deadlines but Japanese companies are not conquering

 

[BlackJesus]

What made them rich is scientific discovery, trade, and geography. The same for most prosperous countries. If we say conservatism made these countries great then why hasn't it worked for every country? There are multiple countries on every continent that have super conservative values, but they country ain't making no type of noise.

Because they had the wrong conservative values. Afghanistan isn’t successful because beheading and burning people at the stake and holding women in the kitchen at gun point isn’t good for business.

Asian countries have the right mix of conservative values, education and commerce. So their rise was inevitable

 

[BlackJesus]

Its not just immigration but having immigration at the foundational core that helps blunt demographic cliffs for countries on this side of the world:

How a Vast Demographic Shift Will Reshape the World

Even in European countries where you see plenty of migration, you will still see a steep decline. Germany admitted that even with laxer immigration laws, they will still need to rely on automation heavily to blunt demographic decline impact.

It also helps that the US has destabilized dozens of countries and then takes advantage of the brain drain. I doubt that aspect of immigration policy would be mentioned in here though since its not rosy.

The same coli that told me immigrants hurt black americans and come here to freeload is now telling me immigrants are good for us and if we had more we could blunt the demographic apocalypse

 

[papa pimp]

The same coli that told me immigrants hurt black americans and come here to freeload is now telling me immigrants are good for us and if we had more we could blunt the demographic apocalypse

I think everything has a caveat.

For Black Americans, it can hurt because we are a resource insecure people due to centuries of systematic oppression. If the government got some damn resources to our communities, it would be a non-issue.

At a macro level, its beneficial for the US since its inception because it helps keep us at above replacement level + brings in a lot of talent.

If we start talking about the "old world" (Europe and Asia) then its an entirely different conversation as those regions were built on different foundational principles.

 

[Diondon]

#letwomenwork

 

[Seoul Gleou]

Xi needs to go. Dude is on some Putin shyt and China doesn't need that static right now

 

[FishNGrits]

Built on conservatism. Die from liberalism

liberals ain’t killing shyt

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

They'll do literally anything other than just pay people more and create rental only housing tied to income and regulate companies who are raising prices on everything.

A person making 10k a month is more likely to want children than someone making 3k a month. Especially when rent is nearly 2k a month if you're not splitting the cost with someone else.

You want women "in the home" okay, start by making homes affordable

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

Warms my heart seeing a countries leaders want their PAAGs taken care of safely at home

 

[FishNGrits]

They'll do literally anything other than just pay people more and create rental only housing tied to income and regulate companies who are raising prices on everything.

A person making 10k a month is more likely to want children than someone making 3k a month. Especially when rent is nearly 2k a month if you're not splitting the cost with someone else.

You want women "in the home" okay, start by making homes affordable

Breh it’s that simple. Make shyt affordable and people will have kids. Stop telling nikkas to move to North Dakota. Fck you I just won’t have kids.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Which is literally the result of economic policy fam.

You see the same thing in the US and Europe but you wouldn't say "conservatism" is what lead to that. Economics simply necessitated more people be in the workforce to spike those growth numbers.



Who said anything about a housing crisis? The actual COL necessitates working long hours. There is no lack of housing in China but yet young people still work 60 hour work weeks and take out loans to enjoy small windows of socializing:




Even if the women wanted to pivot back to being baby making housewives it would not be feasible. This is why what China is allegedly doing won't work.

No.

This is not a debate. Japanese women have rejected traditions and gender norms. You can hear them say it themselves, they don't want to be house wives, stay at home and make babies. When they do their career goals are capped because they are expected to stay home. If they have kids their employees treat them differently There's many docs on this. Their financial problems didn't create the gender divide in their society. A change in values and perspective did. Men are expected to work to death
Women to raise kids. Neither wants that life. You are pushing this economics angle but that's not it. My point was regardless of the causes both societies are ending up in the same situation

 

[papa pimp]

No.

This is not a debate. Japanese women have rejected traditions and gender norms. You can hear them say it themselves, they don't want to be house wives.

No one is debating that and its not the primary cause for the demographic decline

There's many docs on this. Their financial problems didn't create the gender divide in their society.

We can agree to disagree

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

No one is debating that and its not the primary cause for the demographic decline



We can agree to disagree

No you can be difficult but you are wrong.

The primary cause in Japanese society was rejection on traditional life. Women chose careers over marriage. This is documented nothing to go back n forth about. It's ok to be wrong sometimes.

 

[papa pimp]

No you can be difficult but you are wrong.

The primary cause in Japanese society was rejection on traditional life. Women chose careers over marriage. This is documented nothing to go back n forth about. It's ok to be wrong sometimes.

You can be wrong too. See how that works?

Women don't "reject traditional life" out of thin air. Its (this binary of home vs career you love referencing) is literally all informed by economics. Now stop quoting me with this dumb theory.