China’s Male Leaders Signal to Women That Their Place Is in the Home

[OneManGang]

Yall get on here and say anything

Japan's demographic cliff is the result of decades of stagflation via bad monetary policy which made it harder for Japanese people to build families while working.


The only thing you could even remotely say is "conservative" is East Asia's resistance to immigrants, but those countries were never going to be Europe or the US in that sense.

That’s exactly what he’s referring to. They have conservative immigration laws and culture that is exacerbating their issues related to what you’re talking about. Too much work, not enough babies, not enough foreign labor and intermixing to balance it out. Too many old people, not enough youngsters.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Yall get on here and say anything

Japan's demographic cliff is the result of decades of stagflation via bad monetary policy which made it harder for Japanese people to build families while working.


The only thing you could even remotely say is "conservative" is East Asia's resistance to immigrants, but those countries were never going to be Europe or the US in that sense.

Japanese culture is notorious for its emphasis on tradition, conformity, and heirarchy. Their suicide rate speaks for itself.

 

[RickyDiBiase]

You don't know what conservatism is then.

You just see the dominant power whites being "conservative" as a means of consolidating resources and freezing out groups and you think that's how it was done all over.

Conservatism is a recent ideological phenomenon.

Only existed really after blacks were freed from slavery in this country.

Funny how that goes

That rice cac or c00n mentioned “natural order” and I immediately knew what time it was

 

[papa pimp]

That’s exactly what he’s referring to. They have conservative immigration laws and culture that is exacerbating their issues related to what you’re talking about. Too much work, not enough babies, not enough foreign labor and intermixing to balance it out. Too many old people, not enough youngsters.

Foreign labor was never going to be at the levels necessary to solve the demographic cliffs East Asian countries are experiencing.

Germany is trying to be more pro immigration to fight off demographic cliffs and its still not denting the projections.

You have to do a huge reach to emphasize minute things and ignore all the ACTUAL policy that caused the issue.

 

[RickyDiBiase]

communism is conservatism now?

Socially communism was not friendly to decadent lifestyles look up the history of what a @Carlton Banks type breh would go through


On top of that they had a heavy empahsis on traditional gender roles in regards to child rearing and community

 

[BlackJesus]

Bruh, Japan is going through the same problem as China and every other developed country. It’s actually worse in Japan because of their conservative ideals.

Y’all keep missing the point. The argument isn’t about where they are today, but what built these countries up and made them rich

 

[Pure Water]

That’s exactly what he’s referring to. They have conservative immigration laws and culture that is exacerbating their issues related to what you’re talking about. Too much work, not enough babies, not enough foreign labor and intermixing to balance it out. Too many old people, not enough youngsters.

Thank you. Saved me from having to engage with breh.

 

[papa pimp]

Japanese culture is notorious for its emphasis on tradition, conformity, and heirarchy. Their suicide rate speaks for itself.

Ok? Japan's population decline is due to monetary policy during its lost decades not any of the aforementioned.

 

[BaggerofTea]

communism is conservatism now?

you just throw terms around know, you dont even know what they mean.


Yes a "communist" government can be conservative. you clearly have no idea what the definition of conservatism is.



The gall, when you dont even have a basic civics education

 

[Pure Water]

Y’all keep missing the point. The argument isn’t about where they are today, but what built these countries up and made them rich

What made them rich is scientific discovery, trade, and geography. The same for most prosperous countries. If we say conservatism made these countries great then why hasn't it worked for every country? There are multiple countries on every continent that have super conservative values, but they country ain't making no type of noise.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Yall get on here and say anything

Japan's demographic cliff is the result of decades of stagflation via bad monetary policy which made it harder for Japanese people to build families while working.


The only thing you could even remotely say is "conservative" is East Asia's resistance to immigrants, but those countries were never going to be Europe or the US in that sense.

Nah the financial situation contributed but culture has more of an hand in that then economics. This is documented. Japanese women have refused to stay in the home as is expected in their culture and sacrifice having a career. So they just don't get married anymore. They don't want to live up to the traditional expectations

Their issue started with women not wanting to live the traditional life. Not with an unaffordable situation. Japan has no housing crisis. They have a vacant home crisis due to population shrink. Women have rebelled. Much would be the same in China. Women don't want to go back in time. Only incels and weirdos like the coli rapist and conservstives fantasize about pushing women back into home makers. That's why people are talking about conservatism because that tradition aligns with conservative values.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Ok? Japan's population decline is due to monetary policy during its lost decades not any of the aforementioned.

Lmao. Yes it is. Japanese women have said it themselves.

https://hir.harvard.edu/gender-gap-marriage-and-birthrate-in-japan/

Many Japanese women, especially educated and ambitious ones, see marriage as a dead end due to Japan's views on "traditional" gender roles.

 

[The Radiant One]

America would have a falling birth rate if not for immigration.

Once women get education they no longer want as many kids or demand a spouse that is a high earner

 

[papa pimp]

Nah the financial situation contributed but culture has more of an hand in that then economics. This is documented. Japanese women have refused to stay in the home as is expected in their culture and sacrifice having a career. So they just don't get married anymore. They don't want to live up to the traditional expectations

Which is literally the result of economic policy fam.

You see the same thing in the US and Europe but you wouldn't say "conservatism" is what lead to that. Economics simply necessitated more people be in the workforce to spike those growth numbers.

Their issue started with women not wanting to live the traditional life. Not with an unaffordable situation. Japan has no housing crisis.

Who said anything about a housing crisis? The actual COL necessitates working long hours. There is no lack of housing in China but yet young people still work 60 hour work weeks and take out loans to enjoy small windows of socializing:




Even if the women wanted to pivot back to being baby making housewives it would not be feasible. This is why what China is allegedly doing won't work.

 

[IIVI]

Birthrates are down everywhere because shyt is too expensive.

People in addition are getting taxed left and right, and preyed on by services like subscriptions making things more expensive as well.

More bills for shyt like data.

Letting men take on more of the financial burden? Yeah, that ain't going to make having kids any easier. People need to be paid more in these economies, period.