China threatens American government over proposed Taiwan visit in August (Nancy Feet is now on Land) China upset:Firing Ballistic Missiles

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Knock out any country power grid and it’s game over..you not saying much..China is not yet ready for war with UK/US and NATO..Few more years maybe and that’s prob why Uk/Us and Allie’s are looking to start a war in order to slow down all of the progression the Chinese been making

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I’ve said this before..we’ve done multiple war game scenarios with IBM helping with the brain power in calculating outcomes between the PLA and the US Military..most recently we lost both times in 2015 and 2018.

Also, any war involving China is most assuredly going to involve Russian support and if Russia helps then North Korea becomes a wildcard in this whole thing as well.
 

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the biggest myth of them all is that China wants war

Taiwan will eventually choose a relationship with China over a relationship with the US bc the American economy is 100% fugazi while China actually builds shyt and is run by a bunch of engineers instead of a bunch of lying as lawyers.
What are you talking about? China been cappin about its outputs and has been artificially keeping its currency low. All current economies are built primarily on services and the market which despite its name is filled with companies that aren't producing tangible things that you can own any more. Money in general isn't a real thing. If you have 1 million dollars in your bank account, you can't stroll into a wells fargo branch and ask for all of it in blue faces. It's just digital numbers on a screen. Theoretically they could give you 1million dollars but they'd have to arrange for the supply to be brought in from other branches until you had your amount and it would fukk up the work flow for other banks.

If a collection of banks all decided today that it is forgiving all debts at a certain number the world would keep turning. The only things affected would be people who now have more money(a fiction) to spend.

It wouldn't have the same existential effect on the planet as if all energy companies decided today that they are suspending their operations and re-starting only when they've made a full transition to renewables. In the space of time that production has stopped, you'd start seeing plants and animals showing up places that they werent before. You'd start noticing the air quality changing. The amount of plastic goods would start disappearing(since you need petroleum to create plastic)
 

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Knock out any country power grid and it’s game over..you not saying much..China is not yet ready for war with UK/US and NATO..Few more years maybe and that’s prob why Uk/Us and Allie’s are looking to start a war in order to slow down all of the progression the Chinese been making
More like the US isn't ready for War with China.


 

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What are you talking about? China been cappin about its outputs and has been artificially keeping its currency low. All current economies are built primarily on services and the market which despite its name is filled with companies that aren't producing tangible things that you can own any more. Money in general isn't a real thing.

If a collection of banks all decided today that it is forgiving all debts at a certain number the world would keep turning. The only things affected would be people who now have more money(a fiction) to spend.

It wouldn't have the same existential effect on the planet as if all energy companies decided today that they are suspending their operations and re-starting only when they've made a full transition to renewables. In the space of time that production has stopped, you'd start seeing plants and animals showing up places that they werent before. You'd start noticing the air quality changing. The amount of plastic goods would start disappearing(since you need petroleum to create plastic)

A productive economy makes and uses physical resources. A service economy is unproductive. 80% of American jobs are in the service economy these days. We have barely any domestic productive labor (agriculture, mining, oil etc.)

The American economy is dominated by the FIRE sector (finance, insurance, real estate) which is completely dependent on economic rent (the money landlords make in their sleep). It's a financialized economy. The opposite of productive. Parasitic, actually.
 

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More like the US isn't ready for War with China.



no country on earth is capable of sending a standing army to occupy another country right now. none.
 

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A productive economy makes and uses physical resources. A service economy is unproductive. 80% of American jobs are in the service economy these days. We have barely any domestic productive labor (agriculture, mining, oil etc.)

The American economy is dominated by the FIRE sector (finance, insurance, real estate) which is completely dependent on economic rent (the money landlords make in their sleep). It's a financialized economy. The opposite of productive. Parasitic, actually.
I'm not really convinced that China isn't doing the same or trying to transition to it. It has an aging population and a growing middle class that is not cool with working in a factory, moreover the kind of factory jobs that made China an economic super power are fading out with automation. If a country has been able to invest in infrastructure and automation, it can compete for contracts with American Multinationals by offering the most productivity for the lowest cost. It's cheaper to repair a machine than to pay an employee.

The shift to service economies are a natural result of the growth of automation and digitization of goods. People are streaming shows instead of buying DVD sets. People are downloading games instead of buying disks. People are holding cash in debit cards and credit cards over actual paper and coins. People are investing in stock through apps instead of brokers.

A big problem of the 21st century is what to do when production is still rising whilst unemployment grows. A country's productive capacity is becoming less relevant relative to its capacity to create software and other non-tangible things that people can spend their non-tangible money on.
 

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people need to understand

China's debt is not the same as American debt. China doesn't have private banks. They don't have chase. They don't have private insurance firms. They don't have mortgages held in private hands that can be foreclosed on. The federal governement is the one and only bank, and they can (will) simply write down debts.
Doesn't sound like you watched the video. The federal government being the and only bank is neither here nor there, and the situation is a little more complicated than you're making it out to be. In short the CCP deferred to local governments and real estate firms to provide citizens with houses. The real estate firms took people's money (sometimes life savings) under the pretense they would build them a house. The real estate firms rather than build the houses people had paid for took that money to buy more land from local governments in order to sell more future houses, real estate firms were doing this all over the country, creating a giant ponzi scheme. People have houses that they were paying a mortgage on for years that haven't even been built. So recently in protest a ton of people have collectively decided to stop paying their mortgages. Unlike the 2008 crisis here in America it's not a matter of simply foreclosing on people's houses and the bank repossessing them. There are no houses to repossess because the firms never built them. Finally a lot of these real estate firms and homeowners have been defaulting on their bank loans. This causes the banks to limit withdrawals to preserve their funds which affects even people with accounts at said banks that have nothing to do with the situation. Now you have a situation where people can't get their money out of the bank. The situation is all messed up.
 

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I'm not really convinced that China isn't doing the same or trying to transition to it. It has an aging population and a growing middle class that is not cool with working in a factory, moreover the kind of factory jobs that made China an economic super power are fading out with automation. If a country has been able to invest in infrastructure and automation, it can compete for contracts with American Multinationals by offering the most productivity for the lowest cost. It's cheaper to repair a machine than to pay an employee.

The shift to service economies are a natural result of the growth of automation and digitization of goods. People are streaming shows instead of buying DVD sets. People are downloading games instead of buying disks. People are holding cash in debit cards and credit cards over actual paper and coins. People are investing in stock through apps instead of brokers.

A big problem of the 21st century is what to do when production is still rising whilst unemployment grows. A country's productive capacity is becoming less relevant relative to its capacity to create software and other non-tangible things that people can spend their non-tangible money on.

 

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Doesn't sound like you watched the video. The federal government being the and only bank is neither here nor there, and the situation is a little more complicated than you're making it out to be. In short the CCP deferred to local governments and real estate firms to provide citizens with houses. The real estate firms took people's money (sometimes life savings) under the pretense they would build them a house. The real estate firms rather than build the houses people had paid for took that money to buy more land from local governments in order to sell more future houses, real estate firms were doing this all over the country, creating a giant ponzi scheme. People have houses that they were paying a mortgage on for years that haven't even been built. So recently in protest a ton of people have collectively decided to stop paying their mortgages. Unlike the 2008 crisis here in America it's not a matter of simply foreclosing on people's houses and the bank repossessing them. There are no houses to repossess because the firms never built them. Finally a lot of these real estate firms and homeowners have been defaulting on their bank loans. This causes the banks to limit withdrawals to preserve their funds which affects even people with accounts at said banks that have nothing to do with the situation. Now you have a situation where people can't get their money out of the bank. The situation is all messed up.

ya but since the gov prints their own currency and is the only bank, all of that can be sorted out with a couple keystrokes
 

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No.

I’ve said this before..we’ve done multiple war game scenarios with IBM helping with the brain power in calculating outcomes between the PLA and the US Military..most recently we lost both times in 2015 and 2018.

Also, any war involving China is most assuredly going to involve Russian support and if Russia helps then North Korea becomes a wildcard in this whole thing as well.
We lost a naval battle to Sweden in a set of war games. That shyt don’t mean nothing :mjlol:
 

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I wonder in this scenario where will the battle fields be, definitely pacific sea and Eastern Europe, I’m sure east Africa is probably going to be in the middle of it too and the Middle East
Where would y’all want to fight at, im not sure where I would want to fight at
 
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