They fukked everyone and shut down the case before it began by making it a free for all..
China just wrecked all of American AI. Silicon Valley is in shambles.
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They fukked everyone and shut down the case before it began by making it a free for all..
make me a 5 page slide presentation in powerpoint about a new medical device. write vba script.
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try it with web search enabled. i couldn't due to heavy server traffic.
Please provide an extensive 5-page slide presentation in PowerPoint about a new medical device, presented as a VBA script(minimum of 20,000 characters). The script should create a detailed and comprehensive presentation, including multiple slides with rich content, graphics placeholders, and formatting. Ensure the script generates a professional-looking presentation suitable for showcasing a cutting-edge medical device to potential investors or medical professionals.
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you can compare chatgpt o1 with deepseek r1 to assess it yourself.
Anthropic's CEO says DeepSeek shows US export rules are working | TechCrunch
Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei claims the U.S.' export rules are working as intended, looking at DeepSeek's progress in the context of U.S. AI progress.
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Anthropic’s CEO says DeepSeek shows US export rules are working
Kyle Wiggers
10:05 AM PST · January 29, 2025
In an essay on Wednesday, Dario Amodei, the CEO of Anthropic, weighed in on the debate over whether Chinese AI company DeepSeek’s success implies that U.S. export controls on AI chips aren’t working.
Amodei, who recently made the case for stronger export controls in an op-ed co-written with former U.S. deputy national security adviser Matt Pottinger, says in the essay he believes current export controls are slowing the progress of Chinese companies like DeepSeek. Compared to the performance of the strongest U.S.-produced AI models, Amodei says, DeepSeek’s fall short when factoring in the release time frame.
“DeepSeek produced a model close to the performance of U.S. models 7-10 months older, for a good deal less cost (but not anywhere near the ratios people have suggested),” Amodei said. “[This is] an expected point on an ongoing cost reduction curve. What’s different this time is that the company that was first to demonstrate the expected cost reductions was Chinese.”
Amodei compares one of DeepSeek’s flagship models, DeepSeek V3, to Anthropic’s Claude 3.5 Sonnet, which he says cost a “few $10M’s” to train. Sonnet’s training finished 9 to 12 months ago, while DeepSeek’s model was trained in November or December — yet Sonnet remains ahead in a number of “internal and external evals,” Amodei notes.
“U.S. companies [are also] achieving the usual trend in cost reduction,” Amodei added. “The efficiency innovations DeepSeek developed will soon be applied by both U.S. and Chinese labs to train multi-billion dollar models.”
Amodei, who in the essay calls DeepSeek “very talented engineers” that “show why China is a serious competitor to the U.S.,” foresees a fork in the road depending on which export policies the Trump administration embraces. Before Trump took office, the outgoing Biden administration imposed new restrictions on hardware exports that are scheduled to take effect in the coming months, but that could be curtailed should Trump wish to do so.
If Trump strengthens export rules and prevents China from obtaining what Amodei describes as “millions of chips” for AI development, the U.S. and its allies could potentially establish a “commanding and long-lasting lead,” Amodei claims. If, on the other hand, the U.S. doesn’t make it more challenging for China to import AI chips, the country could “direct more talent, capital, and focus” to “military applications” of AI technologies, Amodei fears.
“Combined with its large industrial base and military-strategic advantages, this could help China take a commanding lead on the global stage,” Amodei said. “To be clear, the goal here is not to deny China or any other authoritarian country the immense benefits in science, medicine, quality of life, and so on that come from very powerful AI systems. Everyone should be able to benefit from AI. The goal is to prevent them from gaining military dominance.”
It seems likely that Amodei will get his preferred outcome. In a Senate hearing on Wednesday, billionaire businessman Howard Lutnick, Trump’s pick for commerce secretary, accused DeepSeek of stealing American IP.
“What this showed is that our export controls, not backed by tariffs, are like a whack-a-mole model,” Lutnick said. “Chinese tariffs should be the highest.”
As commerce secretary, Lutnick would have a key role in carrying out Trump’s plans to raise and enforce tariffs.
OpenAI, Anthropic’s chief rival, has also called on the Trump administration to take more aggressive steps to ensure U.S. dominance in AI. In a recently published policy doc, OpenAI warned that if the U.S. doesn’t attract the necessary global funds for AI projects, they’ll “flow to China-backed projects” and “[strengthen] the Chinese Communist Party’s global influence.”
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1/11
@thinking_panda
Microsoft yesterday: DeepSeek illegally stole OpenAI's intellectual property.
Microsoft today: DeepSeek is now available on our AI platforms and welcome everyone trying it.
2/11
@amka017
Microsoft's mood swings are more dramatic than my coffee addiction!
Meanwhile, at /search?q=#PublicAI, we’re just here sharing data and good vibes!
3/11
@Megthefounder
On a related note, we’ve been working on an AI agent called GoCodeo that helps developers effortlessly generate code and perform testing.
Now, with DeepSeek-R1 integrated into our platform, we’re making workflows even smarter and boosting productivity for developers tackling complex challenges.
Here’s the link: GoCodeo: The Ultimate AI Coding Agent - Visual Studio Marketplace
We’re currently offering free access and would love for you to check it out and share your feedback
4/11
@asiczone
i remeber the open ai former's CTO Mira Murati avoiding questions on training sources for Sora, how it is called?
5/11
@Organique
I asked 2 questions on the Microsoft Azure playground and they limited me on the 2nd question
6/11
@nmPraveen
Investigation = stole? Good to know.
7/11
@victor_explore
funny how fast "stolen tech" becomes "strategic partnership" when the numbers make sense
8/11
@ArthasLich
9/11
@himanshukalwar
Tech drama moves faster than AI itself. One day it’s a battle, the next day it’s a partnership. Gotta love the plot twists in this industry!
10/11
@ValueAnalyst1
11/11
@Yuchenc03794228
Palantir: We’re investigating if Microsoft stole our product name.
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@thinking_panda
Microsoft yesterday: DeepSeek illegally stole OpenAI's intellectual property.
Microsoft today: DeepSeek is now available on our AI platforms and welcome everyone trying it.
2/11
@amka017
Microsoft's mood swings are more dramatic than my coffee addiction!
Meanwhile, at /search?q=#PublicAI, we’re just here sharing data and good vibes!3/11
@Megthefounder
On a related note, we’ve been working on an AI agent called GoCodeo that helps developers effortlessly generate code and perform testing.
Now, with DeepSeek-R1 integrated into our platform, we’re making workflows even smarter and boosting productivity for developers tackling complex challenges.
Here’s the link: GoCodeo: The Ultimate AI Coding Agent - Visual Studio Marketplace
We’re currently offering free access and would love for you to check it out and share your feedback
4/11
@asiczone
i remeber the open ai former's CTO Mira Murati avoiding questions on training sources for Sora, how it is called?
5/11
@Organique
I asked 2 questions on the Microsoft Azure playground and they limited me on the 2nd question
6/11
@nmPraveen
Investigation = stole? Good to know.
7/11
@victor_explore
funny how fast "stolen tech" becomes "strategic partnership" when the numbers make sense
8/11
@ArthasLich
9/11
@himanshukalwar
Tech drama moves faster than AI itself. One day it’s a battle, the next day it’s a partnership. Gotta love the plot twists in this industry!
10/11
@ValueAnalyst1
11/11
@Yuchenc03794228
Palantir: We’re investigating if Microsoft stole our product name.
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1/11
@KobeissiLetter
Microsoft 9 Hours Ago: DeepSeek illegally stole OpenAI's intellectual property.
Microsoft Now: DeepSeek is now available on our AI platforms.
2/11
@KobeissiLetter
As the saying goes, denial is the first step of acceptance.
3/11
@iam_big_7
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4/11
@iam_big_7
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5/11
@luisbeldroega
Make that make sense
6/11
@AtogalaJuandel
that's wildMicrosoft: DeepSeek illegally stole OpenAI's intellectual property. Microsoft Now: DeepSeek is now available on our AI platforms. Sounds like a plot twist! Meanwhile, at /search?q=#PublicAI, we believe in sharing data the right way!
7/11
@SpencerHakimian
More questions than answers these past 24 hours.
8/11
@LuminEthics
The AI War Just Got Real
1/ Microsoft: "DeepSeek illegally stole OpenAI's intellectual property."
2/ Microsoft (hours later): "DeepSeek R1 is now available on Azure AI Foundry & GitHub."
The hypocrisy is staggering.
What’s happening?
Microsoft, OpenAI’s biggest backer, accuses DeepSeek of IP theft.
Yet, they immediately integrate DeepSeek R1 into Azure AI.
This is corporate AI warfare—Big Tech playing both sides to control intelligence.
9/11
@cherksonx
Like what CEO of /search?q=#PLTR say, it's the application layers of LLMs and AI that will be the winners of this AI race.
/search?q=#MSFT isn't shocked by Deepseek and instead incorporates into their suite of models. Power to open source and power to developers. Just take a cut.
/search?q=#letsgo
10/11
@thehodlreport
So the full circle is:
1) OpenAI steals data to create model
2) DeepSeek steals OpenAI data to create model
3) Microsoft launches DeepSeek model
11/11
@mendy_personal
What on earth is going on? /search?q=#MSFT
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@KobeissiLetter
Microsoft 9 Hours Ago: DeepSeek illegally stole OpenAI's intellectual property.
Microsoft Now: DeepSeek is now available on our AI platforms.
2/11
@KobeissiLetter
As the saying goes, denial is the first step of acceptance.
3/11
@iam_big_7
Q1 2025 is just the beginning for /search?q=#BEATS!A thriving community, major developments, and a bright future ahead.
Join @BeatsOnBase and dive into the /search?q=#MemeMusic revolution!
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@iam_big_7
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@luisbeldroega
Make that make sense
6/11
@AtogalaJuandel
that's wildMicrosoft: DeepSeek illegally stole OpenAI's intellectual property. Microsoft Now: DeepSeek is now available on our AI platforms. Sounds like a plot twist!
Meanwhile, at /search?q=#PublicAI, we believe in sharing data the right way!7/11
@SpencerHakimian
More questions than answers these past 24 hours.
8/11
@LuminEthics
The AI War Just Got Real 1/ Microsoft: "DeepSeek illegally stole OpenAI's intellectual property."
2/ Microsoft (hours later): "DeepSeek R1 is now available on Azure AI Foundry & GitHub."
The hypocrisy is staggering.
What’s happening?Microsoft, OpenAI’s biggest backer, accuses DeepSeek of IP theft.
Yet, they immediately integrate DeepSeek R1 into Azure AI.
This is corporate AI warfare—Big Tech playing both sides to control intelligence.
9/11
@cherksonx
Like what CEO of /search?q=#PLTR say, it's the application layers of LLMs and AI that will be the winners of this AI race.
/search?q=#MSFT isn't shocked by Deepseek and instead incorporates into their suite of models. Power to open source and power to developers. Just take a cut.
/search?q=#letsgo
10/11
@thehodlreport
So the full circle is:
1) OpenAI steals data to create model
2) DeepSeek steals OpenAI data to create model
3) Microsoft launches DeepSeek model
11/11
@mendy_personal
What on earth is going on? /search?q=#MSFT
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6 months tops
You may be right. If deepseeks achieves this these US AI companies are fukked
Fill Collins
Playing for keeps.
Richard Glidewell
Superstar
Are we speaking in certain demographics or while also ignoring that life used to consist of people on their homestead prior to the industrial revolution destroying that way of life for most by forcing people into cities?! What am I missing?...when?
From 1619 to the present, when was that ever a thing?
1/8
@teortaxesTex
I've thought a bit; the copening is… reasonable. This is late game; models are *good*. One update to V3/R1, and a normie won't be able to come up with a question it won't ace 99 times of 100. How can OpenAI differentiate? “o3 beats ARC”.
Mindshare, user sentiment trump all.
[Quoted tweet]
It's actually crazy how fast Deepseek is becoming a household name.
I'm in Vietnam right now and even here some boomers be like "Forget about ChatGPT, it's water under the bridge. Deepseek is where it's at now!"
The average layman really believes that Deepseek is far superior because it competes against the old model offered in ChatGPT's free tier.
That's the reason why OpenAI HAS to give o3-mini to free tier users asap.
If this goes on even for a bit longer, people will really think ChatGPT just sucks, and it would tank OpenAI's brand value quicker than Sam Altman's boys take to blow their load in his a$$hole after a rare 3 day streak of abstinence.
2/8
@itaybachman
the normies questions won’t matter as much as solving diseases and multiplying the economy agently
3/8
@teortaxesTex
That's fair but we're talking of mobile app use
4/8
@doomslide
openai is quite a large company by now. rot is definitely rampant based on all the events of the past year. we should seriously entertain the possibility that they became google but comparatively dwindling capital and no tpus. too early to conclude. i'll give it 1-3 months.
5/8
@GaryANorman
I think it's a selling point to many Americans that Deepseek is developed by the Chinese. Trust in domestic institutions/companies is in the toilet
6/8
@AlphaExponent
history isn't the forte of natsec AI bros
the USSR had many SOTA military-oriented computing technologies, but ultimately struggled
computing thrived in the US where there were ample commercializable use cases...
for normal consumers
7/8
@andersonbcdefg
i guess if this is what it takes for the hammer-sickle in bio gang to "update their priors"
about AI ill take it lol
8/8
@ustx987
Have you thought a bit or 8 bit?
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@teortaxesTex
I've thought a bit; the copening is… reasonable. This is late game; models are *good*. One update to V3/R1, and a normie won't be able to come up with a question it won't ace 99 times of 100. How can OpenAI differentiate? “o3 beats ARC”.
Mindshare, user sentiment trump all.
[Quoted tweet]
It's actually crazy how fast Deepseek is becoming a household name.
I'm in Vietnam right now and even here some boomers be like "Forget about ChatGPT, it's water under the bridge. Deepseek is where it's at now!"
The average layman really believes that Deepseek is far superior because it competes against the old model offered in ChatGPT's free tier.
That's the reason why OpenAI HAS to give o3-mini to free tier users asap.
If this goes on even for a bit longer, people will really think ChatGPT just sucks, and it would tank OpenAI's brand value quicker than Sam Altman's boys take to blow their load in his a$$hole after a rare 3 day streak of abstinence.
2/8
@itaybachman
the normies questions won’t matter as much as solving diseases and multiplying the economy agently
3/8
@teortaxesTex
That's fair but we're talking of mobile app use
4/8
@doomslide
openai is quite a large company by now. rot is definitely rampant based on all the events of the past year. we should seriously entertain the possibility that they became google but comparatively dwindling capital and no tpus. too early to conclude. i'll give it 1-3 months.
5/8
@GaryANorman
I think it's a selling point to many Americans that Deepseek is developed by the Chinese. Trust in domestic institutions/companies is in the toilet
6/8
@AlphaExponent
history isn't the forte of natsec AI bros
the USSR had many SOTA military-oriented computing technologies, but ultimately struggled
computing thrived in the US where there were ample commercializable use cases...
for normal consumers
7/8
@andersonbcdefg
i guess if this is what it takes for the hammer-sickle in bio gang to "update their priors"
about AI ill take it lol8/8
@ustx987
Have you thought a bit or 8 bit?
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IIVI
Superstar
I would make a thread for this but don't Want to create another trump thread
But....nikka what?!
If we had our fabs up and running and ready to go I'd understand but we haven't divorced ourselves from Taiwan. This dude has to be an agent bruh
The top voted comments on the Electrical Engineering subreddit basically indicate how bad this is:
If anybody is eyeing some useful gadgets, I’d consider buying some soon.
Ai2 says its new AI model beats one of DeepSeek's best | TechCrunch
Move over, DeepSeek. Seattle-based nonprofit AI lab Ai2 has released a benchmark-topping model called Tulu3-405B.
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Ai2 says its new AI model beats one of DeepSeek’s best
Kyle Wiggers
6:00 AM PST · January 30, 2025
Move over, DeepSeek. There’s a new AI champion in town — and they’re American.
On Thursday, Ai2, a nonprofit AI research institute based in Seattle, released a model that it claims outperforms DeepSeek V3, one of Chinese AI company DeepSeek’s leading systems.
Ai2’s model, called Tulu3-405B, also beats OpenAI’s GPT-4o on certain AI benchmarks, according to Ai2’s internal testing. Moreover, unlike GPT-4o (and even DeepSeek V3), Tulu3-405B is open source, which means all of the components necessary to replicate it from scratch are freely available and permissively licensed.
A spokesperson for Ai2 told TechCrunch that the lab believes Tulu3-405B “underscores the U.S.’ potential to lead the global development of best-in-class generative AI models.”
“This milestone is a key moment for the future of open AI, reinforcing the U.S.’ position as a leader in competitive, open-source models,” the spokesperson said. “With this launch, Ai2 is introducing a powerful, U.S.-developed alternative to DeepSeek’s models — marking a pivotal moment not just in AI development, but in showcasing that the U.S. can lead with competitive, open-source AI independent of the tech giants.”
Tulu3-405B is a rather large model. Containing 405 billion parameters, it required 256 GPUs running in parallel to train, according to Ai2. Parameters roughly correspond to a model’s problem-solving skills, and models with more parameters generally perform better than those with fewer parameters.
According to Ai2, one of the keys to attaining competitive performance with Tulu3-405B was a technique called reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards. Reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards, or RLVR, trains models on tasks with “verifiable” outcomes, like math problem solving and following instructions.
Ai2 claims that on the benchmark PopQA, a set of 14,000 specialized knowledge questions sourced from Wikipedia, Tulu3-405B beat not only DeepSeek V3 and GPT-4o, but also Meta’s Llama 3.1 405B model. Tulu3-405B also had the highest performance of any model in its class on GSM8K, a test containing grade school-level math word problems.
Tulu3-405B is available to test via Ai2’s chatbot web app, and the code to train the model is on GitHub and the AI dev platform Hugging Face. Get it while it’s hot — and before the next benchmark-beating flagship AI model comes along.
