Chicago savages at it agian

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I really don't wanna do a back and forth on sh*t that's not makin' money or furtherin' my people nor am I a part of. But breh to end this topic, since when in the f*ck does contract killers=organized criminal organization? :heh: Westies (Irish) used to do hits for the mob all the time, doesn't make 'em organized. If you're hispanic don't take offense breh, it's just how I see things. And no, MS-13/surenos don't control the majority of the drug trade, it's the cartels that do and not only in Mexico, but also in the country of origin of MS-13. In fact, the mara had to put the 13 on their name to show their allegiance to La Eme as far as I know. And La Eme gets their sh*t from the cartels. The Mara are the shooters for the cartels and La Eme, that's where it begins and ends. And as far as I know Cosa Nostra was never permitted to be directly involved in the drug trade, and LA has always been open territory, nobody ran sh*t, so I don't know where you got that from. Anyway breh, this sh*t is whatever, gangs/mobs are like empires, they rise, they grow, they crumble. Give an idiot a gun and a G-pack and he's a mobster :manny: F*ck that, let's big up the people in this thread who are doing something in the community like @Clark Kent and get their feedback on the original point of this thread and how perhaps we can do something to stem the tide of violence in theSouthside.
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If they was so organized shyt wouldn't collapse by removin a few leaders they would have people in place to take over.
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They were organized to such a point where the logic of " Kill the head, the body will die" simply didn't work.

it wasn't that they just locked up all the leaders, they started tearing down the projects too.

if you were to equate this to a business model.... they went from being target's and wal marts, to a bunch of mom and pop shops.
 
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A few things:

-the LA mob family never really "ran shyt" in California, they just had business there. It was way too small(because there wasn't a big Italian population there) and its leadership way too incompetent. They were called the Mickey Mouse Mafia for this reason.

- using FBI/DOJ terminology and classifications, powerful and organized street gangs would fall under the "criminal enterprise" banner and not under "organized crime"

- don't get too caught up in the hitman and soldier semantic debates. That's videogame logic. The mob for the most part uses its own people to do "work", and only very rarely outsource. If a guy is "on the record" with a mob family and is known to be "capable" he may be ordered to do a hit. But mob guys never get paid for a hit. They're not "contract killers". They do it because it's expected of them. And they may advance in the organization or be given more opportunities to make money, but they never get paid a fee for a hit. That's movie shyt.

- Richard Kuklinski was a bullshyt artist, a media invention. He only killed a few guys and they were low level street guys(i.e: porn shop operators, thieves). He killed them to take over their businesses, not "on contract". His only association with the mob was he once bought a gun from a fringe player in Roy DeMeo's crew.

-neither the mob nor the cartels ever "controlled" the drug trade. That's also media bullshyt. What they did/do is supply. But the relationship between wholesaler and retailer is symbiotic. Neither controls the other. One can't make money without the other.

- the GDs don't rival the 60s mob in power. No criminal organization will ever have the power the mob once had in America(as opposed to 2nd or 3rd worlds, where it's much easier). It's not that the Italians were inherently superior criminals, they just were lucky enough to benefit from a unique set of circumstances(mass immigration, Prohibition and the Great Depression, the rise of the Labor Unions, J Edgar Hoover being a massive tool, the illegality of gambling, the lottery not existing, credit was hard to get etc.) that will never again be replicated.
 

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They were organized to such a point where the logic of " Kill the head, the body will die" simply didn't work.

it wasn't that they just locked up all the leaders, they started tearing down the projects too.

if you were to equate this to a business model.... they went from being target's and wal marts, to a bunch of mom and pop shops.

:salute: It's so easy to spot a real nikka :wow:
 
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