This is what I'm trying to get into people's minds when they talk Texas. The UT system is trying to model itself after the U of California System and the people in charge are totally on board with that. Football school is not on the president's mind. Turning UT into Berkeley South and the UTD into UCLA academically is what they are concerned with. So you're left with the Big Money Donors trying to care about football, but all they do is fight. The first guy UT brass was after was David Shaw, then it was Jim Mora and Strong as 2a and 2b. The BMDs were after Saban. Our last president was of a similar vein and was also from Berkeley. They are far more concerned about building their medical school and adding research dollars to the point they are willing to just build a new arena because its in the way. If its up to them, Charlie Strong is exactly what they want as a coach. Winning football is gravy to the actual administration.
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This is what I'm trying to get into people's minds when they talk Texas. The UT system is trying to model itself after the U of California System and the people in charge are totally on board with that. Football school is not on the president's mind. Turning UT into Berkeley South and the UTD into UCLA academically is what they are concerned with. So you're left with the Big Money Donors trying to care about football, but all they do is fight. The first guy UT brass was after was David Shaw, then it was Jim Mora and Strong as 2a and 2b. The BMDs were after Saban. Our last president was of a similar vein and was also from Berkeley. They are far more concerned about building their medical school and adding research dollars to the point they are willing to just build a new arena because its in the way. If its up to them, Charlie Strong is exactly what they want as a coach. Winning football is gravy to the actual administration.
Another problem I had with Soulcontroller's post is the point he made about "i dont really see a shift in talent. the secondary is as bad as it was when he took over". If UT's secondary was playing like it did in 2014, UT would be 4-0 right now.
Cal being 1-11 a few years ago under a different coaching staff has nothing to do with Cal in 2016. Cal looks like another Texas Tech to me. They can score on anybody in the country, but their defense is too garbage to ever win the conference.
Texas EASILY has more True Frosh/RS Frosh/True Soph starters than any other Power 5 conference program in the country:
Power 5 conference teams start an average 4.079 FR, RS FR, SO. Texas starts 12.
# of 1st/2nd year starters (FR, RS FR and SO).
Big 12:
OU 3
WV 1
Texas Tech 6
Baylor 1
TCU 5
Kansas 5
Oklahoma State 2
Kansas State 6
Iowa State 3
32
Big 10:
Michigan State 2
Ohio State 4
Michigan 2
Penn State 7
Indiana 5
Rutgers 4
Maryland 3
Iowa 2
Northwestern 3
Wisconsin 4
Nebraska 2
Minnesota 3
Illinois 2
Purdue 4
47
Pac 12:
Washington 4
Washington State 4
Stanford 4
Cal 4
Oregon State 5
Oregon 7
Colorado 3
Arizona State 4
Utah 2
UCLA 3
USC 6
Arizona 4
50
ACC:
Clemson 7
NC State 1
Louisville 3
WF 5
Syracuse 6
Boston College 6
FSU 4
North Carolina 2
Miami 7
Virginia Tech 4
Virginia 6
Georgia Tech 5
Pitt 2
Duke 5
63
SEC:
Tennessee 4
Florida 4
Georgia 7
Kentucky 5
South Carolina 5
Missouri 4
Vanderbilt 3
Alabama 7
A&M 6
LSU 3
Auburn 6
Ole Miss 5
Miss State 2
Arkansas 4
65
257/63=4.079 starters
Texas starts 12 (Buechele, Burt, Williams, Vahe, Shackelford, Omenihu, Hager, Jefferson, Wheeler, Davis, Hill and Jones)
# of 1st/2nd year starters (FR, RS FR and SO).
Big 12:
OU 3
WV 1
Texas Tech 6
Baylor 1
TCU 5
Kansas 5
Oklahoma State 2
Kansas State 6
Iowa State 3
32
Big 10:
Michigan State 2
Ohio State 4
Michigan 2
Penn State 7
Indiana 5
Rutgers 4
Maryland 3
Iowa 2
Northwestern 3
Wisconsin 4
Nebraska 2
Minnesota 3
Illinois 2
Purdue 4
47
Pac 12:
Washington 4
Washington State 4
Stanford 4
Cal 4
Oregon State 5
Oregon 7
Colorado 3
Arizona State 4
Utah 2
UCLA 3
USC 6
Arizona 4
50
ACC:
Clemson 7
NC State 1
Louisville 3
WF 5
Syracuse 6
Boston College 6
FSU 4
North Carolina 2
Miami 7
Virginia Tech 4
Virginia 6
Georgia Tech 5
Pitt 2
Duke 5
63
SEC:
Tennessee 4
Florida 4
Georgia 7
Kentucky 5
South Carolina 5
Missouri 4
Vanderbilt 3
Alabama 7
A&M 6
LSU 3
Auburn 6
Ole Miss 5
Miss State 2
Arkansas 4
65
257/63=4.079 starters
Texas starts 12 (Buechele, Burt, Williams, Vahe, Shackelford, Omenihu, Hager, Jefferson, Wheeler, Davis, Hill and Jones)
Not only that. They have a True Frosh QB. This is why I picked Texas to only go 8-4 before the season, even though the have the most talent in the conference. The other Big 12 teams having their own issues DOES NOT negate all the youth Texas has in their 2-deep.
I agree with Soulcontrollar on Buchele. I don't care how good he looked in the Spring Game, if this is supposed to be a make or break season for Coach Strong, he shouldn't put all his eggs in a basket on a True Frosh QB. He should've been more aggressive going after a Grad Transfer/JUCO QB like Davis Webb.
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People's expectations are out of wack if they think 8-4 is a failure for this season. Most people agreed before the season, that Coach Strong saves his job if he gets 8 wins.
All this drama this week for nothing! Ain't shyt changed! Most fans & media agreed he needed to win 8 games before the season to save his job anyways.
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Bomani Jones speaking the real on his radio show a couple days ago at the 12-minute mark.
Download link: http://play.podtrac.com/espn-therig...3085182/bomanijones_2016-10-04-165722.64k.mp3
Download link: http://play.podtrac.com/espn-therig...3085182/bomanijones_2016-10-04-165722.64k.mp3
Actually no. Louisville were willing to match. He wanted to be considered in the upper echelon of coaching jobs. HC of Texas sounds sexier than HC of Louisville.
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Lol they never wanted him. black coaches get short leashes at big program
invincible1914
G.O.M.A.B.
Chuck got a chance!Edit: thought they recovered the fumble. Blew all his timeouts!