Chance the rapper pushes the narrative that black men are the white men of the black community

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no winning with some people.

If a black man wants to compete and gain the power white men have to provide for black women:

"why y'all want power so bad like white men? black toxic masculinity is worse than white supremacy. y'all just as toxic as white men. if black men gain power, black women will have to deal with black supremacy and toxic masculinity which will be the same as white supremacy"

If a black man has no interest in competing and providing for black women:

"y'all lazy. black women out here earning more degrees and rising up the ladder leaving y'all behind. i'm divesting to white men who know how to compete and provide"
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Should black men seek to have the power white men currently possess or not? Because your post made it sound like black men wanting the power white men have right now is bad.
If gonna engaged in the same toxic behavior of white men, then yeah. we cant be replacing one massa with another, we have to burn the whole plantation down and black men and women have to build equally. Everyone has to included in our dream of our community. This means no engagement of abusive behaviors .This means no phobias or capitalism. I'm sorry.
 

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If gonna engaged in the same toxic behavior of white men, then yeah. we cant be replacing one massa with another, we have to burn the whole plantation down and black men and women have to build equally. Everyone has to included in our dream of our community. This means no phobias or capitalism. I'm sorry.

I thought you said black men are being "massa" or oppressing black women right now?

So how would black men gaining the power white men have (eliminating white supremacy in other words), be "replacing one massa with another" if black men are already oppressing you?

to be honest you just sound like you're scared of getting rid of white supremacy. you sound like a Trump supporter who says eliminating white supremacy isn't a good idea since you will have "black supremacy" according to them.
 

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I thought you said black men are being "massa" or oppressing black women right now?

So how would black men gaining the power white men have (eliminating white supremacy in other words), be "replacing one massa with another" if black men are already oppressing you?

to be honest you just sound like you're scared of getting rid of white supremacy. you sound like a Trump supporter who says eliminating white supremacy isn't a good idea since you will have black supremacy.
Some of yall engage in abusive and sexist behavior, that is what we mean by replacing one massa with another. Yall dont have the right to have power and abuse it. And yes I want white supremacy gone. I want capitalism gone. I want anything that oppresses gone.
 

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The crazy part is these idiots analyze sports but don't even understand the racial dynamics in sports. Such as black males can't own teams (outside of MJ) are rarely VPs, directors, GMs and head coaches of teams and are never commisioners. They are also discarded once they can no longer perform...yet their white counterparts can keep jobs even if they can't perform.

See it took me 30 seconds to list how these idiots miss the mark when they throwing out black males athletes as an example of their gender power.
How about when BM athlete is opinionated or expresses independent thought, he is quickly labeled as a malcontent, cancer, trouble maker, etc...

Oh, and don't let a brother hold out on a contract.....
 
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Some of yall engage in abusive and sexist behavior, that is what we mean by replacing one massa with another. Yall dont have the right to have power and abuse it.

Let's say white men have a power level of 10, white women 8, Black Men 2, Black women 1.

If we worked so that Black men have a power level 10, and Black women 8, according to you that would not count as progress for Black people? And therefore black people should not seek to gain power, meaning you are in favor of white supremacy if we can't do things 100% equally?

It's either 100% equality or you are in favor of maintaining the current system of white supremacy and sexism?
 

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Run for office...why? How? He's out here equating Biden to Trump. This is not a political play, it's a self destruction shrouded as radicalization. He tried to get hot with tik tok dances. It failed and the album bombed. His tour got cancelled due to low demand. Now he's popping radical shyt on twitter getting daps from people (ie black women) who don't even listen to his music. This is not some master plan. It's the end of the road.
Dog from day one I was like....where did this dude come from? What is his lineage? How did he gain a following? Just out of nowhere? How?
 

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If gonna engaged in the same toxic behavior of white men, then yeah. we cant be replacing one massa with another, we have to burn the whole plantation down and black men and women have to build equally. Everyone has to included in our dream of our community. This means no engagement of abusive behaviors .This means no phobias or capitalism. I'm sorry.

I feel like individuals watch 2 videos and read an article in regards to something then speak as if their an expert in that particular subject.
Like what does, “everyone has to be included in our dream of our community” even mean?
 

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Let me put it this way. Let's say white men have a power level of 10, white women 8, Black Men 2, Black women 1.

If we worked so that Black men have a power level 10, and Black women 8, according to you that would not count as progress? And therefore black people should not seek to gain power, meaning you are in favor of white supremacy if we can't do things 100% equally?
But why do black women be behind period? What cant we stand by yall , side by side? And so not equate yalls acknowledgement and being aware of sexism face by black women as being in favor of white supremacy. And why do yall engage in our subjection to be powerfull?
I feel like individuals watch 2 videos and read an article in regards to something then speak as if their an expert in that particular subject.
Like what does, “everyone has to be included in our dream of our community” even mean?

Its means no one oppresses black women, black lbgq and everyone make sure that they have an social safety net and doesnt go hungry. It means equal voting rights, it no environmental racism, it means abolishing slave wages, it means good schools, it mean not choking us up in debt every time we try and make our lives better. It means doing away with prison system and focusing rehabilitation. That what that means.
 

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But why do black women be behind period? What cant we stand by yall , side by side? And so not equate yalls acknowledgement and being aware of sexism face by black women as being in favor of white supremacy. And why do yall engage in our subjection to be powerfull?

They shouldn't be left behind, of course it should be done together. I'm just saying that I think the more pressing problem to be tackled is the system of white supremacy, not black men wielding what power they have over black women, and that black men and women would greatly benefit from eliminating white supremacy even if it's done imperfectly.

Your posts made it seem like you're in favor of maintaining white supremacy unless it's removed in a 100% perfect way (good aspiration but impossible standard, no such thing as a perfect war), even though 100% of black people would benefit greatly from eliminating white supremacy.
 

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Its means no one oppresses black women, black lbgq and everyone make sure that they have an social safety net and doesnt go hungry. It means equal voting rights, it no environmental racism, it means abolishing slave wages, it means good schools, it mean not choking us up in debt every time we try and make our lives better. It means doing away with prison system and focusing rehabilitation. That what that means.

I want to focus on one particular thing. You say better schools right? Better schools -> more educated society -> More skilled people, right? Is that what you’re getting at?
 

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Saying this means that we can oppress white women when we obviously can't.
 
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