Cena/Reigns Full RAW Segment

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I disagree.

Some of the "all-time great" promo men got to that level by basically rehashing the same shyt week in and week out. Rock, Austin, Jake Roberts, Ric Flair ... the details varied a bit but the talking points generally remained the same outside of a few occasions. You gotta know what your guys do well and what they don't do well before you push them.

That said, Cena absolutely mollywhopped Roman Reigns and frankly, the best course of action for Roman would have been to lay Cena out just to show that words don't mean a damn thing if you're not going to whoop the nikka's ass at the end of the day. Similar to Batista's lead-in to WM 26 where he was like, "All you do is talk, Cena. Bark-bark-bark, that's what you do. That's NOT what I do. :demonic:"
Everything the Rock says makes money...Austin too. You can claim it was the same thing but their promos got turned into t shirts.
 

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just saw it. i thought i was very dope but

the term "HEEL TURN"

should NEVER

EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

be mentioned on pro wrestling television again.

never.

can't wait to hear cornette's take on this
I only like the use of insider terms on Wrestling when it's tongue in cheek. Like when HBK ripped off that guy's shoe and hit HHH with it, and Lawler was like, "A heel for a heel?!" Or of course, the other time Cena mentioned the heel turn:lolbron:
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Then again, in the last 10 years the face/heel terms have transcended wrestling and are now part of the regular internet lexicon. I see people who never watched wrestling past the Attitude era use it now.
 

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To have Roman try to go head to head in promos with Cena was the first mistake.

To have the skinhead brothers interrupt the segment was the second.

To have them in a tag team match on the same side was the third.

And to have the match end clean with no fukkery was the fourth.

Roman should've gone off script before signing the contract. I was joking about it in the live thread but he should've straight up threatened to kill him.

"I don't neeed to know how to promo to beat you within an inch of your life/I let my fists do the talking/I made the mistake of not finishing the job last time (trying to kill Braun), I won't make the same mistake twice/I'm gonna make Nikki a widow before she has the chance to even get married"....Something of that variant.

He can't go against Cena on the mic, but he can definitely outshine him in the ring. And he has a raw, sinister aggressiveness that Cena will never have.

But this company is so dumb, so SO dumb they still wanna keep that man a face-leaning "tweener"

Hoping the WWE plays to Romans strengths in building his character has never worked before so it ain't gonna happen now.
 

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Everything the Rock says makes money...Austin too. You can claim it was the same thing but their promos got turned into t shirts.

I merely said it was basically the same thing. No one denies that what they said didn't get a reaction and it wasn't hella effective. I'm just saying most of these people weren't out here talking that shyt like Raven whatever. These dudes are wrestling during a period where people will pay to go see a show and then spend most of that show playing beach volleyball. You call somebody a bytch now, people are all :damn: :banderas: :gladbron: :whew:

No need to overthink it, is the point.
 

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To have Roman try to go head to head in promos with Cena was the first mistake.

To have the skinhead brothers interrupt the segment was the second.

To have them in a tag team match on the same side was the third.

And to have the match end clean with no fukkery was the fourth.

Roman should've gone off script before signing the contract. I was joking about it in the live thread but he should've straight up threatened to kill him.

"I don't neeed to know how to promo to beat you within an inch of your life/I made the mistake of not finishing the job last time (trying to kill Braun), I won't make the same mistake twice/I'm gonna make Nikki a widow before she has the chance to even get married"....Something of that variant.

He can't go against Cena on the mic, but he can definitely outshine him in the ring. And he has a raw, sinister aggressiveness that Cena will never have.

But this company is so dumb, so SO dumb they still wanna keep that man a face-leaning "tweener"

Hoping the WWE plays to Romans strengths in building his character has never worked before so it ain't gonna happen now.


That would have done all it needed to do.
 

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Stop it. Every time guys get to go back at Cena just as hard as they go at him. Some people have lit him up, like Punk, Dean, and Miz. Some people have merely held their own, like Bryan and AJ. Others, like Roman, got cooked.

Complain year ROUND about scripts being bad then complain when two guys go out there free to crack back and forth just because the one you don't like can't talk to save his life.
The thing is, the point of promos is to make you want to see the match...not completely bury the opponent and make him look silly. There's a give and take. Chris Jericho mentioned in his first book how in one of the first promos he ever cut, he just went IN on this guy. Just completely shytting on him. The guy pulled him aside backstage and was like, "What the fukk are you doing? Yeah, that might have been funny, but you're not gonna sell tickets by just putting yourself over. And what happens if you lose (and you will lose:ufdup:)? Now you're the guy who got beat by a crippled old man. And what happens if you win (and you won't win:ufdup:)? You're just some chump who beat up an old guy."

Hell, look at The Rock. Yeah, he'd go in on guys but it was schoolyard roasting and jokes. Aside from Billy Gunn, he never questioned his opponents' talent and ability like Cena routinely does.
 
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Y'all gotta stop bytching about these Cena promos. He's the only guy people get to "shoot" on and he takes whatever they throw his way. He gets the last word because most of these dudes can't hang. And they all say the same smarky shyt year after year after year. There's only so many times you can remix the same complaints. But I know, Cena gets the last word and buries his opponents oh woe is me.

Apparently this promo was REAL, and the reason Reigns lost is because he was worried about political backlash :mjlol:
 

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They're right..when Cena said the fans make the stars and that's why he can't bury no one..talk about the biggest bull$hit line that has ever come out his mouth. Fans have got behind Cesaro, Ziggler, and Ambrose..they don't get magic Cena protection.
 

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I merely said it was basically the same thing. No one denies that what they said didn't get a reaction and it wasn't hella effective. I'm just saying most of these people weren't out here talking that shyt like Raven whatever. These dudes are wrestling during a period where people will pay to go see a show and then spend most of that show playing beach volleyball. You call somebody a bytch now, people are all :damn: :banderas: :gladbron: :whew:

No need to overthink it, is the point.
Why talk like Raven when it makes no money? Bryan could if turned into a lazy promo guy after 2013 after getting mega over but he didn't. He just mostly spoke the truth and talked about the politics..people related with that.
 
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