Cavs GM: "look at Cam, he is a leader who doesn't fear any team.....we don't have that"

William F. Russell

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Wilt's teams were not stacked like Boston. Not even close

and he was arguably the GOAT scorer - how can you just omit that? Russell couldnt score like Wilt



Well, you just made this one up, but OK :heh:

Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you.

Look at the record when Russell faced Wilt. Whose team won more? Hint: the team led by the guy with 11 rings.
 

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MVP stands for "Most Valuable Player, " not best stats.
Oh so now we're gonna go into semantics :heh:

He wasn't the best player in his era.

Wilt is ahead in points, rebounds, assists and FG percentage. Russell shot 44% from the field. That's shaky for a shooting guard, let alone a center.
 

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Oh so now we're gonna go into semantics :heh:

He wasn't the best player in his era.

Wilt is ahead in points, rebounds, assists and FG percentage. Russell shot 44% from the field. That's shaky for a shooting guard, let alone a center.

Wilt was solely a better scorer than Russell.

Russell was a better rebounder, better shot blocker, better defender, and a better leader. Dude has 11 rings and 5 MVP awards. Let that sink in. That dynasty Celtics squad was built around him. He was undeniably the best player on that team. Prior to Russell, the Celtics never won anything, despite having the same team minus him. Russell was the best player in the 60s, full stop.

Russell got the better of Chamberlain in their head-to-head matchups.
 

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Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you.

Look at the record when Russell faced Wilt. Whose team won more? Hint: the team led by the guy with 11 rings.

Wilt played with Thurmond for Nate's rookie season and then headed to Philly next season

He played with West/Baylor at the end of his career and Elgin was :flabbynsick: by then

The rest arent on the level of the rest of the names mentioned

If you are seriously trying to frame an argument where Wilt had equal talent next to him than Russell than just stop replying to me

and look at hwo you moved the goal posts on Wilt/Russell and how Russell always 'owned' him H2H - now its about wins? Seriously? :heh:
 

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Wilt played with Thurmond for Nate's rookie season and then headed to Philly next season

He played with West/Baylor at the end of his career and Elgin was :flabbynsick: by then

The rest arent on the level of the rest of the names mentioned

If you are seriously trying to frame an argument where Wilt had equal talent next to him than Russell than just stop replying to me

and look at hwo you moved the goal posts on Wilt/Russell and how Russell always 'owned' him H2H - now its about wins? Seriously? :heh:


Well when you have more wins than your opponents in H2Hs isn't that ownage? :francis::heh:
 

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Wilt and Russell played against each other 142 times in 10 years. Russell's team won 88, Wilt's teams won 74. (14 game difference)

Clearly not talking about wins & losses, we already established Russell had better teams, better coaching

You just decided to move the goal posts while ignoring Wilt would outperformed Russell when they faced off
 

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Wilt was solely a better scorer than Russell.

Russell was a better rebounder, better shot blocker, better defender, and a better leader. Dude has 11 rings and 5 MVP awards. Let that sink in. That dynasty Celtics squad was built around him. He was undeniably the best player on that team. Prior to Russell, the Celtics never won anything, despite having the same team minus him. Russell was the best player in the 60s, full stop.

Russell got the better of Chamberlain in their head-to-head matchups.
He wasn't the better rebounder and there were no stats for blocks that I'm aware of.
Defender...I can't confirm or deny this but you can have that
Leader....I'll give you this based on here say
Wade is a better leader, defender and equal shot blocker to Bron with more rings but when it comes to basketball, Bron is better because the eye test and the stats show this.
Again, Wilt is a better passer, shooter and rebounder with over twice as many points. Twice as many breh. And without the eye test, we have to go to the numbers
 

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Does Cleveland deserve LeBron? Heat fans and those in leadership within the Heat organization rode with LBJ and stuck by him through the good and bad. After the 2011 Finals debacle, we all encamped ourselves around LBJ like a human shield. We defended him. Now LBJ's back in Cleveland, and he has to deal with entitled teammates like KLove who's been a failure, a bum, and an overall overrated player who can't play defense to save his life, yet tried to call out LBJ.

The Cavs will still win the East, but if they don't win it all, The Cavs will look just as funny in the light as LBJ will..
 
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