Cavs GM: "look at Cam, he is a leader who doesn't fear any team.....we don't have that"

[Wild self]

Shyt like this is why i stopped hating lebron

You think that I'm a Bron hater?

Just saying, at 31 and 13 seasons in the league, I thought he could handle situations a little bit better.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Again, I clearly put the .... In the title meaning it was stated later. I thought that would be understood. All people have to do is listen to the audio. It's still a stern statement and not completely misquoted. He references the clear leader of the Panthers and says "we don't play like that". Cam rally's his team to play better and fearless. The Cavs don't play like that. What would you deduce from that? He's not gonna come out and say Bron isn't a great leader or men.

You clearly put a slanted title skewed with your own opinion.

You twisted the shyt outta what was said. shyt like this makes you no different than hack journalists

 

[Goatpoacher]

Man this site is shyt when it comes to this

I've seen far more misleading titles... but this is pretty bad



I demand a correction to the title.

 

[William F. Russell]

Wilt is almost always ranked among the Top 5 players ever, and most of the time he's higher than Russell. ESPN Just had him ranked as the 2nd best center ever behind Kareem, popular opinion on Wilt is that he's one of the single greatest players ever, disappointment is rarely mentioned.

Well that's what I mean when I'm saying he's overrated despite him being ranked as top 5. And it's a crime that he's a consensus pick over Russell who got the better of him in head-to-head matchups, in MVPs, and championships. Wilt wasn't nearly as big of a winner as the media hypes him up to be.

 

[William F. Russell]

I know you rep the Celtics, but Wilt was rather clearly the best player in his era

Bill Russell would even agree

Russell had 11 chips and 5 MVPs during Wilt's era. What did Wilt win?

 

[Brozay]

Russell had 11 chips and 5 MVPs during Wilt's era. What did Wilt win?

Russell played on better teams, with better coaching. This isnt even up for debate

If you want to say Russell historically had a better career, fine, but Wilt was the better player

 

[THE MACHINE]

To be fair, Wilt disappointed in his career and is slightly overrated. Dude wasn't even the best player in his era and couldn't will his way to victory despite his absurd and undeniable athletic superiority. LeBron's the modern day Wilt.

You might have to take those Bill blinders off for a sec. Bill is an all time great and a consensus top 10 player but.........









......take this into consideration. In the 1961-1962 season, Wilt averaged 50 points and 25 rebounds per game. Oscar Robertson averaged 31 points 12 rebounds and 11 assists per game ( he averaged a damn triple double breh) Russell averaged 19 points and 23 rebounds....


















and won MVP.

 

[duckbutta]

The frustrating part is that he doesn't need to have a team built around him that way, we've seen him play in the post and do it well, we've seen him play off the ball and do it well, we've seen him do a bunch of things that would work if he would just step back and play off the ball at times. He should be playing PF right now with a team built around him and focused on making teams defend him with their PF, like the Warriors do with Draymond. His refusal to play off the ball now, and play PF is why the Cavs had to take on Love. They could have built a team around him similar to the Warriors, but LeBron's rigid idea on how he should play is what is hurting them.


They wouldn't need to go out and find a PF to matchup with Draymond, they have one already, he just wants to play SF.

Co-sign. Bron biggest crutch in his career is his unwillingness to play off the ball. If he did that it would solve every one of cleveland's offensive problems and they wouldn't need 200 million dollars worth of power forwards.

However his shaky jumper does limit what he can do off the ball, depending on what your personal preference is for offense. I don't really know how effective he can be off the ball when you know all he is going to do is steamroll you to the basket. But then again, even just constantly cutting and bulldozing people is going to get teams in the penalty and open up a lot of things inside due to timid defense. But then again...again... also have doubts about Tristan and Monster Moz consistently finishing those easy dumpoffs an off the ball Bron could spoon feed them. The power forward thing is strange...because cleveland runs sets that bron is clearly the pf for what they are trying to run...yet they run the set with Tristan and Love on the floor so .

And I think both Kawhi and Draymond are two types of defenders that are just going to make Bron work so hard he gets frustrated and then all parts of his game start to suffer, and the team you have to build around him can't recover from that. Kawhi is just ahead of him physically now, to the point that even when Bron took him off the dribble he recovered and blocked the shot. Draymond is just to tough for him and relishes players who try to bulldoze him (like damn near every spartan basketball player in the nba). Both of these guys also give max effort and have extremely high basketball IQ's so his chances of catching them sleeping on backdoor cuts, or any cuts in general are slim to none.

Maybe the cavs can somehow trade for Ryan Anderson and at least solve their offensive problems though

 

[NoGutsNoGLory]

I think earlier in lebrons career this stuff bothered him. I honestly think he doesn't give a shyt anymore and is about his paper first and winning second

No way, you can tell he has a massive ego like all great sports stars and it is killin him inside to be so helpless.

 

[William F. Russell]

Russell played on better teams, with better coaching. This isnt even up for debate

If you want to say Russell historically had a better career, fine, but Wilt was the better player

Wilt's team was stacked too. As we're most of the teams in the league during that era. And I don't know how much of Russell's success you can attribute to being on a "stacked team" when that team never won before Russell joining and when he was a 5x MVP recipient.

I honestly don't even know how you can argue that Wilt was a better player than Russell other than being able to put up 100 points in a game and ARGUABLY being more athletic. Russell owned dude whenever their teams faced each other.

 

[ORDER_66]

Yeah cause Miami is tearing the league up.

Hoeden State and the Spurs are shaking in their boots.

I'm just saying the miami team seemed better equipped than the Cavs team..

 

[THE MACHINE]

You clearly put a slanted title skewed with your own opinion.

You twisted the shyt outta what was said. shyt like this makes you no different than hack journalists

It's not hack at all. There is a .... breh and its part of the same topic of conversation. He said (and I paraphrase so you won't get emotional) Cam is a leader of men and he and his team plays fearless no matter the competition. We don't play like that. We don't have that. We don't have that swagger.


If you don't think that is what he is saying, please tell me what he is saying then.

 

[William F. Russell]

You might have to take those Bill blinders off for a sec. Bill is an all time great and a consensus top 10 player but.........









......take this into consideration. In the 1961-1962 season, Wilt averaged 50 points and 25 rebounds per game. Oscar Robertson averaged 31 points 12 rebounds and 11 assists per game ( he averaged a damn triple double breh) Russell averaged 19 points and 23 rebounds....


















and won MVP.

MVP stands for "Most Valuable Player, " not best stats.

 

[Brozay]

Wilt's team was stacked too. As we're most of the teams in the league during that era. And I don't know how much of Russell's success you can attribute to being on a "stacked team" when that team never won before Russell joining and when he was a 5x MVP recipient.

I honestly don't even know how you can argue that Wilt was a better player than Russell other than being able to put up 100 points in a game and ARGUABLY being more athletic. Russell owned dude whenever their teams faced each other.

Wilt's teams were not stacked like Boston. Not even close

and he was arguably the GOAT scorer - how can you just omit that? Russell couldnt score like Wilt

Russell owned dude whenever their teams faced each other.

Well, you just made this one up, but OK

 

[High quality poster]

fukk, Lebron life in shambles right now

And yes, he needs at least 4 rings, That's the same expectation yall held Kobe to, same shyt Jordan went through, the NBA and Nike spent the last decade trying to get us to believe Lebron was the second coming, he ain't shyt if he don't win 4, those 2 in Miami feel so empty, like he bought them shyts, shoulda stuck it out with the team you win with.

Yall mad right now