Catholics of The Coli (if you exist) Explain Praying To The Virgin Mary?

[Berniewood Hogan]

HIS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRINITY CONCEPT ARE PERFECTLY FAIR, BROTHER! IT'S NOT A CLEAR AND COHERENT IDEA, DUDE!

 

[Brown_Pride]

All that shyt is retroactive gerrymandering of scripture and trying to shoehorn some shyt into a belief system. If jebus was god it wouldnt have had to be voted on
That whole book is sketchy and was never meant to even exist as a compilation. Like I said study up

Jesus was God regardless of the vote. It's not like he was sitting up in heaven nervous about what was going on hoping he didn't get filibustered. The book is a collection of divinely inspired writings, their compilation is what it is. Neither one of us is really in a position to imply anything regarding their "coming together"; particularly when we clearly don't see eye to eye on this particular topic.

I've said before and i'll say again, the relationship you have with God is personal. It is also important to recognize that the bible is an important tool in helping to develop that relationship, it is NOT the relationship.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

@Brown_Pride fresh out of bible camp

Word. Like niccaz never heard these stock answers before. Son totally misses the point that none of this bs makes the slightest bit of sense. They be so eager to spew their nonsense that they dont even check to see if what theyre sayin is coherent. Its funny as fukc tho

 

[Hip-Hop-Bulls]

Can a christian show us where the holy spirit is, or Jesus for that matter?

 

[Brown_Pride]

So you don't have to pray to Jesus then?

If you pray to god you pray to Jesus
You pray IN THE NAME OF Jesus, meaning you ask Jesus to dap your prayers and vouch for you in front of God. You don't have to pray TO Jesus, nor do you have to pray in his name (see the:Our father who...).

It's like court right.
SO you COULD defend yourself, or
You could have the Judges Son speak on yourbehalf; note that the Judge and the Son are on in the same...or like I said, you could speak for yourself.

@Brown_Pride fresh out of bible camp

lol went to bible college and am a believer what can I say.
FYI i'm not the end all to this, my opinion you should be reading your bible and asking for answers to these questions as much as you're posting them on boards.

BP Out.

 

[88m3]

Word. Like niccaz never heard these stock answers before. Son totally misses the point that none of this bs makes the slightest bit of sense. They be so eager to spew their nonsense that they dont even check to see if what theyre sayin is coherent. Its funny as fukc tho

I think they are trying too hard at this point. bp just dropped the info in one of the clearest ways I've ever seen it explained. It's not like it's a difficult concept or there's a lot of angles.

 

[88m3]

lol went to bible college and am a believer what can I say.
FYI i'm not the end all to this, my opinion you should be reading your bible and asking for answers to these questions as much as you're posting them on boards.

BP Out.

you explained it really well honestly


I don't put a lot of thought into any of it.


I just go for the architecture and to think clearly these days.


The last few masses were in Spanish, Catalan, and Latin.


just having fun out there

 

[Kitsune]

My Grandma is catholic and I try to tell her how its deeply rooted in Paganism but she dont wanna hear it

 

[Kitsune]

and I believe the deification of Mary is a representation of "The Queen of Heaven" which is a goddess that goes back to ancient Babylon.

In Babylon she went by Ishtar.
Many cultures adopted it and thus she became disguised under a set of numerous different names
In Greece it was Aphrodite. In Egypt it was Isis.
In Rome it was Venus.
Then from Rome it was intertwined with Christianity along with bunch of other forms of paganism which brought forth Catholocism.


The Bible actually speaks about "The Queen of Heaven" in the Book of Jeremiah and how this pagan God was worshipped by the state of Israel when it fell into idolatry.


Jeremiah 7
Do you not see what they are doing in the towns of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes to offer to the Queen of Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to arouse my anger. But am I the one they are provoking? declares the Lord. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame?



Im still a new Christian who learns more every day so its cool putting alot of the pieces together and reading the Bible is actually kinda fun when you understand it >.>

 

[Kitsune]

Delete

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

WHY IS IT WRONG TO HAVE A FEMALE DEITY, BROTHER? DON'T YOU THINK THE REMOVAL OF THAT ELEMENT FROM RELIGION IS RELATED TO THE SEXISM AND PATRIARCHY IN WESTERN CIVILIZATION, DUDE?

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Lets talk about this "holy spirit"

First off, can we define spirit? From what I understand from when I was a sheeple, the spirit is some inner you shyt that is detached from the body. Basically "you" without the body.

Now, believers claim this god character doesnt exist in the physical. Thus the only way for yahweh to even exist would be what we consider a spirit. So the "holy spirit" would be, if any of this was actually real, the spirit of a spirit

So the trinity consists of two spirits and a human. One of the spirits is actually the biological father of the human, except one of the spirits was already the biological father of the human before he became human. *break in the action*

You know how creationists try to promote creationism by saying that a "creation requires and suggests a creator"?

Well, wouldnt a "father" and "son" also require and suggest a "mother" using that same 'logic'? Of course it does. This is just some left over shyt from the Greek/Roman gawds that had sexual relations with humans and fathered/mothered children, half human and half gawd. Without a gawd mother, this shyt makes no sense even in their own context. But alas yahweh actually had a wife, Asherah, they just decided early in Judaism (Christianity's pappy) that women were evil and dumb so they edited any divinity of women out of their doctrines. The religion is literally on some fakket shyt.



but wait theres more...

this nicca jebus, because somehow he is the father, actually fukced his own mama who is by all accounts supposed to be in her early teens , in order to create himself. You may say, "nah jebus didnt fukc his own mama" well then I ask you, why even go through this whole horse and pony show with an earthly mother? yahweh is already as described as a having a dick, this is obvious in the fact they claim he is male. He either fukcs betches with his dick or he pisses. is this doctrine of conception somehow more miraculous than simply making a nicca appear on earth outta the blue like he supposedly did with Adam and Eve? One of those two examples has an alternative possibility. Maybe Mary was a fast little slut that was fukcin everybody in the tribe, wasnt no DNA tests then (how convenient for yahweh, think how verifiable this shyt would be today) so there is a very viable answer outside of this myth of a virgin birth (which is a mistranslation anyways, the actual writing said "young girl"), a nicca appearing out of nowhere has no other explanation than some powerful or advanced being.


I could smash these niccaz all day

 

[Kitsune]

and in China she is known as Shing Moo

 

[Brown_Pride]

Lets talk about this "holy spirit"

First off, can we define spirit? From what I understand from when I was a sheeple, the spirit is some inner you shyt that is detached from the body. Basically "you" without the body.

Now, believers claim this god character doesnt exist in the physical. Thus the only way for yahweh to even exist would be what we consider a spirit. So the "holy spirit" would be, if any of this was actually real, the spirit of a spirit

So the trinity consists of two spirits and a human. One of the spirits is actually the biological father of the human, except one of the spirits was already the biological father of the human before he became human. *break in the action*

You know how creationists try to promote creationism by saying that a "creation requires and suggests a creator"?

Well, wouldnt a "father" and "son" also require and suggest a "mother" using that same 'logic'? Of course it does. This is just some left over shyt from the Greek/Roman gawds that had sexual relations with humans and fathered/mothered children, half human and half gawd. Without a gawd mother, this shyt makes no sense even in their own context. But alas yahweh actually had a wife, Ahserah, they just decided early in Judaism (Christianity's pappy) that women were evil and dumb so they edited any divinity of women out of their doctrines. The religion is literally on some fakket shyt.



but wait theres more...

this nicca jebus, because somehow he is the father, actually fukced his own mama who is by all accounts supposed to be in her early teens , in order to create himself. You may say, "nah jebus didnt fukc his own mama" well then I ask you, why even go through this whole horse and pony show with an earthly mother? yahweh is already as described as a having a dick, this is obvious in the fact they claim he is male. He either fukcs betches with his dick or he pisses. is this doctrine of conception somehow more miraculous than simply making a nicca appear on earth outta the blue like he supposedly did with Adam and Eve? One of those two examples has an alternative possibility. Maybe Mary was a fast little slut that was fukcin everybody in the tribe, wasnt no DNA tests then (how convenient for yahweh, think how verifiable this shyt would be today) so there is a very viable answer outside of this myth of a virgin birth (which is a mistranslation anyways, the actual writing said "young girl"), a nicca appearing out of nowhere has no other explanation than some powerful or advanced being.


I could smash these niccaz all day

Well damn, guess it's time to change my beliefs, clearly you've thought this out completely and have covered all the angles, I've been bested. It's all been for naught. There are times in a man's life when he's on a message board and someone just outright changes the course of that mans life, today I am that man, today you are THE MAN.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

and I believe the deification of Mary is a representation of "The Queen of Heaven" which is a goddess that goes back to ancient Babylon.

In Babylon she went by Ishtar.
Many cultures adopted it and thus she became disguised under a set of numerous different names
In Greece it was Aphrodite. In Egypt it was Isis.
In Rome it was Venus.
Then from Rome it was intertwined with Christianity along with bunch of other forms of paganism which brought forth Catholocism.


The Bible actually speaks about "The Queen of Heaven" in the Book of Jeremiah and how this pagan God was worshipped by the state of Israel when it fell into idolatry.


Jeremiah 7
Do you not see what they are doing in the towns of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes to offer to the Queen of Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to arouse my anger. But am I the one they are provoking? declares the Lord. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame?



Im still a new Christian who learns more every day so its cool putting alot of the pieces together and reading the Bible is actually kinda fun when you understand it >.>

Word. Problem is 99.9% of these people A) dont read their bible B) dont read their bible critically C) dont read what their not told to read in their bible D) dont ever decide to read about what we've learned about the bible E) never try to learn about shyt outside of their dogma F) never try to learn about other religions G) never learn about the history of their dogma H) never put two and two together to get four

and probably 10 alphabets worth of shyt they never do, instead remaining sheeple

At the very least you would think Christians would learn about Judaism considering Judaism is what jesus believed in (if he even existed)

But, nah, they have fancy visual aids attempting to explain how their trinity is but isnt all at the same damn time