Catholics of The Coli (if you exist) Explain Praying To The Virgin Mary?

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You clearly have no grasp of the topic or burden of proof... ima ignore you until you can post something worthwhile lil fella
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I know what's the burden of proof which is why I don't make claims nor assertions. You on the other hand do if your going against my belief. :ahh:

Go ahead ignore me and take your L in silence.
 

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Okay can you two take your flirting somewhere else? This is supposed to be a serious thread for Christians. I'm still trying to figure out why certain conversations are even going on in here
 

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Okay can you two take your flirting somewhere else? This is supposed to be a serious thread for Christians
You already know atheists will come in just because its for Christians only. :youngsabo:
 

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THIS IS THE MOST CLICHED INTERNET ATHEIST ARGUMENT HOLLYWOOD HAS EVER SEEN, BROTHER! FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER, DUDE? THAT'S SO 2011, JACK!

HULKSTER WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW CATHOLICS VIEW THEIR OWN DOCTRINE, MEAN GENE!
 

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THIS IS THE MOST CLICHED INTERNET ATHEIST ARGUMENT HOLLYWOOD HAS EVER SEEN, BROTHER! FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER, DUDE? THAT'S SO 2011, JACK!

HULKSTER WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW CATHOLICS VIEW THEIR OWN DOCTRINE, MEAN GENE!

Its even older brother. But son basically said "you cant disprove it" thats when I knew I was dealin with a newbie and had to let son go...
 

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THIS IS THE MOST CLICHED INTERNET ATHEIST ARGUMENT HOLLYWOOD HAS EVER SEEN, BROTHER! FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER, DUDE? THAT'S SO 2011, JACK!

HULKSTER WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW CATHOLICS VIEW THEIR OWN DOCTRINE, MEAN GENE!
When he mentioned the spaghetti monster i knew he lacked wisdom. :huhldup:

He is a following ass fool lol.

I seem his type before. They act like angsty teens who want to rebel at anything but get blinded in their rebellion that they don't realize how stupid they really sound.
 

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I mean shyt look at his username like he is calling himself smart. A real smart person would show and prove not wear it like a label. :ahh:
 

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So what who do you think they are talking about in

Genesis 49:10
The scepter will not depart from Judah, nor the ruler's staff from between his feet, until he comes to whom it belongs and the obedience of the nations is his.

Rev 5:5
And one of the elders said to me, “Weep no more; behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals.”

abraham the jewish jesus :yeshrug:
 

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Serpent. Stop trying to play with definitions and semantics. Your story says something. Either you believe the story or you dont.

serpent. do you remember the curse?
Genesis 3:14
Then the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, you are cursed more than all animals, domestic and wild. You will crawl on your belly, groveling in the dust as long as you live.

So are you 100% sure the Serpent of that time was a snake of that time?

sounds to me like the curse created a situation where said serpent could no longer get around/move the way he used to. we dont know how that serpent got around. maybe he flew?(dragon), maybe he walked(lizzard). whatever the case. he is now on his belly. now sure that sounds like our snakes of today. but lets be clear. if said snakes of today actually moved in a completely different way back in the 0 BC, said serpent might have also been able to speak. now this is assuming for arguments sake that the garden story is legit.

now lets go a step further and dont get lazy. read. was the snake talking on its on? or was the snake possessed with the devil/satan? remember demons could enter pigs in the bible as well as people?

when he cursed said creature, was God cursing the actual animal for allowing himself to be entered by satan? Or was he cursing Satan for doing what he did and therefore talking about his movements would be changed and he would now move around on his belly? we dont know.but what we do know from breaking down the scripts is that Satan influenced the snake. again if demons can do so to pigs(other animals) and can enter humans as well. and talk thru both. why would it be so far fetched for a devil infested snake to speak out loud?

lets learn a little something about satan. gotta know your enemy before you set out to war against him.

Was the serpent then Satan? Although the Bible tells us that ‘Satan himself is transformed into an angel of Light’, or ‘masquerades as an angel of light’ (2 Corinthians 11:14), there are difficulties in assuming that something like this happened in the Garden of Eden. Theologian Henry C. Thiessen comments:

‘… the serpent is neither a figurative description of Satan, nor is it Satan in the form of a serpent. The real serpent was the agent in Satan’s hand. This is evident from the description of the reptile in Genesis 3:1 and the curse pronounced upon it in 3:14 [… upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy Life ].’3
The Bible tells us that, just before Judas left the Upper Room to go and betray Jesus, ‘Satan entered into him’ (John 13:26–27). Likewise demons can, under certain conditions, indwell either human bodies or animal bodies—for example, the time when Jesus cast out a legion of devils from a man, and they then entered a herd of pigs which ran down a steep place into the sea (Mark 5:1–13). It is therefore proper for us to conclude that Satan appropriated and used the body of a specific serpent on this occasion to carry out his subtle purpose of tempting Eve to sin.

It is also clear that the use of euphemisms about the serpent, such as calling him ‘the personification of evil’, or labelling the whole incident ‘myth’ or ‘theological poetry’, will not do. The Bible presents this episode as a personal encounter between Eve and Satan, as real as that between Christ and Satan in the wilderness.

The identification of the serpent as the one whose body Satan used raises further questions, such as does Satan speak audibly?

Satan speaking?

When Satan tempted Jesus, he did so with words. Jesus replied and their conversation is recorded for us in both Matthew’s and Luke’s Gospels (Matthew 4:1–11; Luke 4:1–13), although we are not told anything about the way Satan appeared on this occasion.


Concerning the temptation of Eve, Christian writer and expositor J. Oswald Sanders writes:

‘It has been suggested that just as the speaking of Balaam’s ass was a divine miracle, so the speaking of the serpent was a diabolic miracle.’4
Where did Satan come from?

God has chosen not to tell us very much about the origin and apostasy of Satan.5 From the Bible we learn that he is the chief of the fallen angels (called demons or devils), and is the great adversary of God and man (Job 1:6–12; 2:1–6; 1 Peter 5:8).

He fell through pride (1 Timothy 3:6), and we deduce that this event must have been after the sixth day of creation, when God ‘saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good ’ (Genesis 1:31), and before the Fall of man, recorded in Genesis 3.

Concerning his present abode, it is incorrect to think of Satan as the ‘ruler of Hell’, as the Bible makes no such reference. Rather, Jesus called him ‘the prince of this world’ (John 12:31: 14:30; 16:11), and the Bible also calls him ‘the god of this world’ [or ‘age’] (2 Corinthians 4:4), and ‘the prince of the power of the air’ (Ephesians 2:2). It speaks of Satan ‘going to and fro in the earth, and … walking up and down in it’ (Job 2:2; 1 Peter 5:8), and of his activity ‘in the heavenly places’ [or ‘realms’] (Ephesians 6:11–12).
 
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