Cartels are in an all out war w/police and military in Culiacan, Mexico

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fam I read plenty books on it, mostly notably gary webb's series and I never said we weren't involved, ala the last scene of sicario with josh brolin.
Why are you taking responses so personal. You asked a question, we answered. The "War" was nothing but a political tool in addition to profit ambitions.
This is just one part of the bigger picture.
War on Alcohol, War on Drugs, War on Poverty - all these so called "wars" fought and never won. Smoke and Mirrors.
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fam I read plenty books on it, mostly notably gary webb's series and I never said we weren't involved, ala the last scene of sicario with josh brolin.

So why would US be involved in something they don’t profit from?? Border Patrol taking bribes? US banks holding cartel money?? Senators taking $$? City and state police in Texas??
How are they NOT profiting??

In 2008 , drug $$$ is what kept the economy afloat
 

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exactly these fools acting like they ain't tourists STILL booking trips to the resorts it's not syria :russ:

Cartel spicy brehs ain't fukkin with the tourist areas. Even they not that crazy. Especially havin money in that shyt as well
 

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:mindblown::snoop: Do you really think America is engaging in the drug trade, just out of the kindness of their own hearts bc they care so much about American citizens :beli:
Dude, anything the American government does or is involved with is for profit, even nonprofits are profit. This is a consumerist country, capitalism doesn't give a fuk. They weren't stabilizing - do you know what stabilization is - picking the side that will benefit you the most. The concept of 'lesser of two evils' .. you have to read books. Not just this force fed pop culture media bias basura they feed to you or want you to hear. This is what they count on - the majority of people being misinformed or not informing themselves. at all.
:dead: when I said profiting I meant lining the pockets of the U.S. government or companies which they aren't in terms of "I sold x amount of coke, now you make x amount of $"

For example during the Vietnam War and the growth of the poppy plant or in Afghanistan

"In most cases, the CIA's role involved various forms of complicity, tolerance or studied ignorance about the trade, not any direct culpability in the actual trafficking ... [t]he CIA did not handle heroin, but it did provide its drug lord allies with transport, arms, and political protection. In sum, the CIA's role in the Southeast Asian heroin trade involved indirect complicity rather than direct culpability."

Does the U.S. government allow it for the "bigger picture" or "lesser of two evils" yes

Does the U.S. government ACTIVELY sell drugs? Did Nicky Barnes and Freeway Rick Ross have CIA or DEA agents sell crack for them? No?


The U.S. and other powerful governments or entities are just playing chess not checkers.
 

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fam I read plenty books on it, mostly notably gary webb's series and I never said we weren't involved, ala the last scene of sicario with josh brolin.
It's deeper than that, start from the beginning and work your way up; then follow the policies and the paper trail. This has been going on since the 1890s. From Chinese opium gangs to Colombian and Mexican drug cartels. Research The Harrison Act, The Volstead Act, Prohibition all the way down to narcotics control efforts and drug trafficking in Panama- Central America, South America.
All of the counterproductive efforts - truth be told Prohibition caused more people to drink:mjlol: just like there is an increased coorelation between drug control and drug usage. Drug prohibition and drug "wars" were a way to keep certain suppliers in check, drive competitors out of the market which gave rise to the cartel industry. And there's people in here talking about traveling to those other countries aren't safe with all these red alert warnings - how and where do you think most of the violence stems from? Right here in the good ole USofA, most of those countries would not even be militarized without the assistance of the CIA and federal government.
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Why are you taking responses so personal. You asked a question, we answered. The "War" was nothing but a political tool in addition to profit ambitions.
This is just one part of the bigger picture.
War on Alcohol, War on Drugs, War on Poverty - all these so called "wars" fought and never won. Smoke and Mirrors.
The shocking story behind Richard Nixon's 'War on Drugs' that targeted blacks and anti-war activists | American Enterprise Institute - AEI %
I didn't know offering rebuttals and clarification was being personal...
 

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:mindblown::snoop: Do you really think America is engaging in the drug trade, just out of the kindness of their own hearts bc they care so much about American citizens :beli:
Dude, anything the American government does or is involved with is for profit, even nonprofits are profit. This is a consumerist country, capitalism doesn't give a fuk. They weren't stabilizing - do you know what stabilization is - picking the side that will benefit you the most. The concept of 'lesser of two evils' .. you have to read books. Not just this force fed pop culture media bias basura they feed to you or want you to hear. This is what they count on - the majority of people being misinformed or not informing themselves. at all.
They profit from the drug game through their task forces, seizures and human prison capital. The war on drugs generated money for the justice and prison systems. It doesn't mean they are still out here dealing like the 80's C.I.A :mjlol:

They can live way better of grabbing cash and assets off criminals without the scandal of actual dealing.
 

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Mexico weak as shyt. If they don’t just fly 100 helicopters over their compounds and bomb them to hell and back :stopitslime: all the fukkin weapons governments and militaries have access to. Syria isn’t as rich as Mexico and was using weapons on ISIS that would make your skin crawl but Mexico is defenseless huh? :stopitslime:

You think China/USA/UK/Russia or most European countries would ever let a gang control the country. Weak ass country. It’s fanciful to think the cartels could ever topple a government that wanted them gone. The government is in on it. They’re corrupt. And it’s obvious.
 

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:dead: when I said profiting I meant lining the pockets of the U.S. government or companies which they aren't in terms of "I sold x amount of coke, now you make x amount of $"

For example during the Vietnam War and the growth of the poppy plant or in Afghanistan

"In most cases, the CIA's role involved various forms of complicity, tolerance or studied ignorance about the trade, not any direct culpability in the actual trafficking ... [t]he CIA did not handle heroin, but it did provide its drug lord allies with transport, arms, and political protection. In sum, the CIA's role in the Southeast Asian heroin trade involved indirect complicity rather than direct culpability."

Does the U.S. government allow it for the "bigger picture" or "lesser of two evils" yes

Does the U.S. government ACTIVELY sell drugs? Did Nicky Barnes and Freeway Rick Ross have CIA or DEA agents sell crack for them? No?


The U.S. and other powerful governments or entities are just playing chess not checkers.
:gucci:I'm going to stop talking to you about this, because obviously you have not paid attention or analyzed facts.
oh mi god, you have to stop regurgitating shyt, for real. you lost me at "chess not checkers", I swear that is the most overused overhyped smart dumb logic phrase ever said. I have no tolerance for it. What do you mean does the US government doesn't actively sell drugs?? They actively helped to control and conspire :mindblown: wtf.. does that mean.. "chess not checkers".. :dead::dead:That's the type of shyt people say when they have no type of factual analysis to support their claims. What are they playing - Connect Four?? This is the problem - corruption and bribery doesn't exist for no reason- high profit margins create a strong incentive for public officials to involve themselves. The official govt interaction in the drug trade started way before Barnes and Freeway :dahell:.. Congress has had their hand in the pot since 1906, the current "war on drugs" as we know it started around the 70s with Nixon. The problem is you think there is an endgame when in reality the Cartels and Government are playing Battleship armed with nuclear weapons, while the average American public is playing Twister or Candyland thinking the first world doesn't have third world problems when what they both have in common is corruption, inequality, violence, poverty as a result on both sides. People filter out too much bc they don't look for first hand information. The U.S. economy is partially funded by drugs, law enforcement and prisons - funded by drug money, and the cycle continues.
 
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