Capitalism ≠ Corporatism

[marleyg]

so what do we have in this country?

crony capitalism

 

[tmonster]

crony capitalism

which is another term for?

 

[marleyg]

corporate capitalism

 

[DEAD7]

it doesn't have to spiral anywhere the fact is that true capitalist have divorced themselves from reality and exist in a theoretical world. IN THEORY unfettered capitalism is the bee's knees, in reality it leads to corruption of both capitalism and government.

You don't have to have a true capitalist society to know what's going to happen anymore than i need to stick my hand in a running lawn mower to find out what will happen.

I would like less regulation, not zero regulation.

 

[tmonster]

corporate capitalism

yepper!!!
tell the man what he won!!!

 

[the next guy]

OP I agree with you 100 percent.

 

[714562]

it doesn't have to spiral anywhere the fact is that true capitalist have divorced themselves from reality and exist in a theoretical world. IN THEORY unfettered capitalism is the bee's knees, in reality it leads to corruption of both capitalism and government.

You could say the same for any form of organization, really.

 

[Marvel]

very true

all this anti capitalism rhetoric flying in the air is gonna come back and bite people in the ass cuz capitalism is the only way to develop a community

But the root word in commun-ity and commun-ism is the same (I'm not a communist by any means). So a community cannot develop unless they are willing to share and not take advantage of one another. Sharing of information, resources, sometimes your own home, etc. Its funny because the most successful communities in America truly do this level of sharing and do not have a crab in a bucket mentality which is rooted in capitalistic competition. A Jew can come to the US from Poland poor as shyt and his community will share with him and bring him up to par with the rest of the community. Its the same way a family works, you don't try and get over on your sibling but you try and help them out. The capitalistic competition is best when its against and another community or country. Ex: Japan wanting to build better cars than America. Corporations battling against one another in a capitalistic setting is fine and leads to innovation and better products. Ex: Samsung vs Apple.

 

[Marvel]

and communism always leads to corrupt regimes

Neither are perfect in their purest forms. Mass slavery of black people in the West was driven by capitalism. It has its ugly side.

 

[theworldismine13]

But the root word in commun-ity and commun-ism is the same (I'm not a communist by any means). So a community cannot develop unless they are willing to share and not take advantage of one another. Sharing of information, resources, sometimes your own home, etc. Its funny because the most successful communities in America truly do this level of sharing and do not have a crab in a bucket mentality which is rooted in capitalistic competition. A Jew can come to the US from Poland poor as shyt and his community will share with him and bring him up to par with the rest of the community. Its the same way a family works, you don't try and get over on your sibling but you try and help them out. The capitalistic competition is best when its against and another community or country. Ex: Japan wanting to build better cars than America. Corporations battling against one another in a capitalistic setting is fine and leads to innovation and better products. Ex: Samsung vs Apple.

im fully aware of the intention and motivation of communism and im fully aware of its results

a jew can come to the US poor as shyt and if he doesnt engage in capitalism he will stay poor as shyt, and the reason why black people are poor as shyt is because of the lack of capitalism

capitalism is not a moral system, capitalism means private property and free trade, the principles of capitalism work with or without altruism, if you want to teach morals that is a separate issue from capitalism

 

[DEAD7]

Neither are perfect in their purest forms. Mass slavery of black people in the West was driven by capitalism. It has its ugly side.

Mass slavery isnt exclusive to any economic model.

 

[Poitier]

Mass slavery isnt exclusive to any economic model.

Physical slavery in it's most modern form is tied to capitalism.

 

[theworldismine13]

you cant have it both ways

a) slavery has existed for thousands of years

b) capitalism has not always existed according to yall marxists

so c) obviously slavery existed before capitalism according to your logic

 

[marleyg]

wage slaves .. doing all the work and getting pennies .. our current state of capitalism

 

[DEAD7]

Physical slavery in it's most modern form is tied to capitalism.

In its bloodiest form its tied to central planning.

Lets not do this 'which system has the highest injustice count ' dance its silly.


















But if you insist I'll put capitalism's body count against that of centrally planned governments any day...