Capitalism ≠ Corporatism

[Patrick Kane]

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini

 

[Type Username Here]

Posting in here to demolish these fairy tales and illogical arguments after I'm done with finals next week.

Disappointed by this board that this absurdity is allowed to go unchallenged.

 

[Blackking]

Government regulations are not there for the small guy, they aren't there for the weak. That is just the excuse they sell you to get you to support your own enslavement.

This is true... but still


ur delusional about capitalism.... we haven't seen an example in which capitalism doesn't equal exploitation.

 

[DEAD7]

This is true... but still


ur delusional about capitalism.... we haven't seen an example in which capitalism doesn't equal exploitation.

Its not exploitation in the traditional sense(if at all) its this super broad and vague "exploitation" that centers around what is and isnt "fair" judged by third parties.
All labor under capitalism is voluntary, and people get the luxury of deciding what work they will and will not do... things that are taken for granted IMHO...

People who think that they are being "exploited" should ask themselves whether they would be missed if they left, or whether people would say: "Good riddance"? -Thomas Sowell

 

[Blackking]

Its not exploitation in the traditional sense(if at all) its this super broad and vague "exploitation" that centers around what is and isnt "fair" judged by third parties.
All labor under capitalism is voluntary, and people get the luxury of deciding what work they will and will not do... things that taken for granted IMHO...

People who think that they are being "exploited" should ask themselves whether they would be missed if they left, or whether people would say: "Good riddance"? -Thomas Sowell

Thomas Sowell..

Equals the poor with being lazy.. He is a contributor to the Jewish world review

Other than that I do agree with him on Multiculturalism and welfare.

but -lazy and unmotivated aren't the key factors in why class mobility is difficult in this nation.

And it's true - Capitalism encourages greed which encourages exploitation. Democratic socialism doesn't encourage greed and u can still own business.

 

[Blackking]

some of this shyt is fire tho.. http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell1.asp

some is

 

[DEAD7]

And it's true - Capitalism encourages greed which encourages exploitation. Democratic socialism doesn't encourage greed and u can still own business.

Just to be clear, you advocate democratic socialism?

 

[Blackking]

Just to be clear, you advocate democratic socialism?

kinda..

Market Socialism.

 

[DEAD7]

 

[Odyssey]

lol @ quoting Ron Paul & Mises to a board full of marxist/communists.

Dead, i love your posting, but they have won, let them have their godless, genocidal rule. It will solve things quicker than they think.

 

[Odyssey]

lol @ quoting Ron Paul & Mises to a board full of marxist/communists.

Dead, i love your posting, but they have won, the far left has marched through every social and political institution for the last 50 years. Let them have their godless, genocidal rule. It will solve things quicker than they think.

 

[Odyssey]

 

[DEAD7]

@ "godless"

 

[The Real]

i agree 100%, the leash is called individual rights and the rule of law

capitalism will devolve into monopolies and tyranny unless the individual is made supreme, politically speaking

This is a vague and relatively meaningless term. Capitalism is already about individualism. Public membership in clubs and organizations is at an all time low. Distrust in local governments grows by the year. Neighborhood cohesiveness, by all social psychological indicators, is decreasing. We already live in an increasingly atomized society.

As for "individual rights, freedom in classical liberalism (negative liberty) is perfectly compatible with the worst forms of social darwinism. Furthermore, the private sphere negative liberty tries to draw around the individual is incoherent in practice.

As for rule of law, it belongs to the Republican tradition. Classical liberals are incapable of putting it into practice effectively.

 

[theworldismine13]

This is a vague and relatively meaningless term. Capitalism is already about individualism. Public membership in clubs and organizations is at an all time low. Distrust in local governments grows by the year. Neighborhood cohesiveness, by all social psychological indicators, is decreasing. We already live in an increasingly atomized society.

i dont think its vague at all, individual liberty means the ability to express yourself through politics and to be protected from tyranny

as far as the other things you mentioned i have no idea how its a rebuttal to individual freedom, those things you mentioned might be true but those are arguments to not pass an amnesty bill and have the us flooded with non english speaking immigrants, im glad you finally realized why things like bilingualism and multiculturalism are bad for the country

As for "individual rights, freedom in classical liberalism (negative liberty) is perfectly compatible with the worst forms of social darwinism. Furthermore, the private sphere negative liberty tries to draw around the individual is incoherent in practice.

i never agreed that our goal was to prevent social darwanism, i brought up individual freedom to suggest that individual freedom expressed through voting and democratic or populist actions will curtail the excesses of corporations and the wealthy, that is all

at the end of the day a hierarchy in any society is inevitable, what's important is that the hierarchy be as unstable as possible

As for rule of law, it belongs to the Republican tradition. Classical liberals are incapable of putting it into practice effectively.

im not following what the contradiction is between a republican tradition and classical liberalism, the constitution was based on both, am i missing something?