Candace Cameron Bure Defends Her "Submissive Role" With Husband: "I Want Him to Lead"

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yea im showing her all i can but im just learning myself. she is actually a natural but she doesnt believe she can do it enough to just go for it lol. i always tell her that in a year she is going to be cooking 100x better than me
yall can recreate recipes from the cooking channel...shyt is a goat bonding activity... especially when ur high.
 

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hmm ok that's why men have fight for flight responses to stress

and women have tend and befriend (tend to children and create support groups).

You think women don't have a fight or flight response to stress? :pachaha:

Like I said, y'all need to stop. Find someone (I won't say partner because y'all don't want that) who fits whatever ideals you have and deal with what comes with that. Your experiences will never be mine and vice versa.
 

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If our alarm goes off, it might happen once over a 20 year period :pachaha:. And when it does the police is notified and will be there in 10 at the latest because of our neighborhood.

But yes, if that happened over that 20 year period, he will get his gun to check it out, and tell me to stay put. But no, gender roles are not ingrained* in us any more than racial hierarchy is.

Now comparing very real chemical, mental, and physical differences to non-scientific social constructs. :snoop:

Everybody wants to compare their plight to nikkas :snoop:

Women being the dishwasher is not engrained into them. but women being more detail oriented, and more in tune with their own living conditions is. So that naturally leads to women being better/more frequent dishwashers.

Remove all social constructs and males and females are VERY different mentally and physically.
 

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Y'all can't even name a specific task that comes along with gender roles for men besides "protect" and "provide" though. And provide is something women are already expected to do, while protect these days is an alarm system for most people, men and women. So if anything I think it'd be reversed. Men have no idea the tedious and overwhelming nature of the things they expect women to handle day to day alone.

You'd be the perfect candidate for that experiment considering you have a penchant for diminishing the differences between men and women and our roles. :heh:

Fighting for complete equality is one thing (a worthy goal in some respects)...but you get on a slippery slope when you think that men and women are built the same.
 

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lol i mean he started it but w/e.

fukking people outta spite is dumb tho. At least he sees who his friends are.
yup and its homies ova hoes. it was dumb no doubt, but it was strategic cuz i had been lusting after dat nicca since i had met him but had always played it cool , but once the opportunity presented itself, it was on and popping.
 

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You think women don't have a fight or flight response to stress? :pachaha:

Like I said, y'all need to stop. Find someone (I won't say partner because y'all don't want that) who fits whatever ideals you have and deal with what comes with that. Your experiences will never be mine and vice versa.

Not saying they don't have it, saying that is the reaction to MOST stressful situations.

LOL Im gonna find someone who fits my ideals regardless... isn't that what most of us are gonna do?
 

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Now comparing very real chemical, mental, and physical differences to non-scientific social constructs. :snoop:

Everybody wants to compare their plight to nikkas :snoop:

Women being the dishwasher is not engrained into them. but women being more detail oriented, and more in tune with their own living conditions is. So that naturally leads to women being better/more frequent dishwashers.

Remove all social constructs and males and females are VERY different mentally and physically.

Uh uh. When and where have social constructs been removed for you to say this? Especially since its apparent how strong gender socialization is in the different sexes from birth (down to babies even being made to wear different colors and rocked differently).
 

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yup and its homies ova hoes. it was dumb no doubt, but it was strategic cuz i had been lusting after dat nicca since i had met him but had always played it cool , but once the opportunity presented itself, it was on and popping.
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I gotta be careful in these skreets
 

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Uh uh. When and where have social constructs been removed for you to say this? Especially since its apparent how strong gender socialization is in the different sexes from birth (down to babies even being made to wear different colors and rocked differently).

They don't have to be removed to see the very real differences between men and women. God, Mother Nature, or whomever you believe in made two different sexes for a reason. We compliment each other. Your strengths are my weaknesses and vice versa. Look at ANY animal in the wild. There are very definite gender rolls and no social constructs.

In no way am I saying that relationships should consist of men and women being confined to finite rolls. But to pretend that there aren't differences that push us towards those rolls is totally off base.
 

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Not saying they don't have it, saying that is the reaction to MOST stressful situations.

LOL Im gonna find someone who fits my ideals regardless... isn't that what most of us are gonna do?

Yes. But some of us are insistent on trying to declare what works for us and what we want to be a generalized, gendered thing that is the only thing that can work for the rest of the world. Can you guess which of us is doing that :mjpls:

You'd be the perfect candidate for that experiment considering you have a penchant for diminishing the differences between men and women and our roles. :heh:

Fighting for complete equality is one thing (a worthy goal in some respects)...but you get on a slippery slope when you think that men and women are built the same.

Never said men and women are built the same. You should go back and read my posts. The bolded tells everything that needs to be said about your stance and why it is what it is though. It is the case for most men who are so obsessed with the submission concept when you get down to it. There is always a facet of the necessity of female inferiority or inequality in one way or another which is why the two opposing groups will never agree.
 

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They don't have to be removed to see the very real differences between men and women. God, Mother Nature, or whomever you believe in made two different sexes for a reason. We compliment each other. Your strengths are my weaknesses and vice versa. Look at ANY animal in the wild. There are very definite gender rolls and no social constructs.

In no way am I saying that relationships should consist of men and women being confined to finite rolls. But to pretend that there aren't differences that push us towards those rolls is totally off base.

There are differences. Differences in the way we are treated which shape the behavior.

"
Socialization theory offers a straightforward account of the acquisition of gendered identities. Infants are seen as blank slates, waiting to be written down on by their environment. Through their interactions with people close to them and exposure to the values of their society, infants learn what sex is attributed to them and what roles they are expected to learn. Reinforcement (through rewarding gender-appropriate behavior and punishing what may seem as deviant behavior) socializes children into their genders. Parents, for example, are far more likely to engage with their sons in rough physical play than they are with their daughters, and it has been argued that long-term consequences may follow (in this case, a head start for boys in the development of physical violence and aggressiveness.)[12]

Furthermore, adults respond differently to communicative efforts of boys and girls. A study of infants aged 13 months found that when boys demand attention - by behaving aggressively, or crying, whining or screaming - they tended to get it. By contrast, adults tended to respond to girls only when they used language, gestures, or gentle touches; girls who used attention-seeking techniques were likely ignored. There was little difference in the communicative patterns at the start of the study, but by the age of two, the girls have become more talkative and boys more assertive in their communicative techniques.[13]"
 
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