Candace Cameron Bure Defends Her "Submissive Role" With Husband: "I Want Him to Lead"

[Chesirecatdaddy]

Yes. But some of us are insistent on trying to declare what works for us and what we want to be a generalized, gendered thing that is the only thing that can work for the rest of the world. Can you guess which of us is doing that



Never said men and women are built the same. You should go back and read my posts. The bolded tells everything that needs to be said about your stance and why it is what it is though. It is the case for most men who are so obsessed with the submission concept when you get down to it. There is always a facet of the necessity of female inferiority or inequality in one way or another which is why the two opposing groups will never agree.

Yeah but someone claims I'm insistently doing that... but I've cited the contrary many times... I just don't agree with that person so they're resorting to logical fallacies. I think we know who that is

Re-read the posts if you need to, but don't lie on the kid. All I stated was the biological facts, if you can't handle that you need to take it up with whoever created us, not me.

Of course everyone is going to do what works for them

 

[sanityovar8ted]

Out of spite?

Let me guess y'all were on a break?

yes out of spite, he fucced my friend, so i fucced his

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

yes out of spite, he fucced my friend, so i fucced his

That's crazy

Which peen was better

?
Pause

 

[MeachTheMonster]

There are differences. Differences in the way we are treated which shape the behavior.

"
Socialization theory offers a straightforward account of the acquisition of gendered identities. Infants are seen as blank slates, waiting to be written down on by their environment. Through their interactions with people close to them and exposure to the values of their society, infants learn what sex is attributed to them and what roles they are expected to learn. Reinforcement (through rewarding gender-appropriate behavior and punishing what may seem as deviant behavior) socializes children into their genders. Parents, for example, are far more likely to engage with their sons in rough physical play than they are with their daughters, and it has been argued that long-term consequences may follow (in this case, a head start for boys in the development of physical violence and aggressiveness.)[12]

Furthermore, adults respond differently to communicative efforts of boys and girls. A study of infants aged 13 months found that when boys demand attention - by behaving aggressively, or crying, whining or screaming - they tended to get it. By contrast, adults tended to respond to girls only when they used language, gestures, or gentle touches; girls who used attention-seeking techniques were likely ignored. There was little difference in the communicative patterns at the start of the study, but by the age of two, the girls have become more talkative and boys more assertive in their communicative techniques.[13]"

I could pull up plenty of scientific studies of the differences that look at real science and DNA. Not just some polls and opinions from people looking to prove a certain point.

 

[sanityovar8ted]

That's crazy

Which peen was better

?
Pause

his homeboys lawd

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

There are differences. Differences in the way we are treated which shape the behavior.

"
Socialization theory offers a straightforward account of the acquisition of gendered identities. Infants are seen as blank slates, waiting to be written down on by their environment. Through their interactions with people close to them and exposure to the values of their society, infants learn what sex is attributed to them and what roles they are expected to learn. Reinforcement (through rewarding gender-appropriate behavior and punishing what may seem as deviant behavior) socializes children into their genders. Parents, for example, are far more likely to engage with their sons in rough physical play than they are with their daughters, and it has been argued that long-term consequences may follow (in this case, a head start for boys in the development of physical violence and aggressiveness.)[12]

Furthermore, adults respond differently to communicative efforts of boys and girls. A study of infants aged 13 months found that when boys demand attention - by behaving aggressively, or crying, whining or screaming - they tended to get it. By contrast, adults tended to respond to girls only when they used language, gestures, or gentle touches; girls who used attention-seeking techniques were likely ignored. There was little difference in the communicative patterns at the start of the study, but by the age of two, the girls have become more talkative and boys more assertive in their communicative techniques.[13]"

Yes because the socialization theory explains everything
Especially the concrete facts that we already know:

-like why men have bigger brains
- Why women are better at processing language and communication
-Why Men are better at processing spatial tasks and have more mathematical ability
-Why men are more left brained while women split activites between both hemispheres.
- Why their primary hormones create different responses towards stress
- Why women are more emotional and have larger Limbic systems than men.
- Why both genders process pain differently.
- and many more

None of this is nurture.. it's all nature.. has nothing to do with socialization. These are cognitive, behavioral and physical differences that no socialization can do shyt about for the most part. These differences make for some genders being better at certain things than others... that's not to say that roles can't be reversed since that is actually social... but if you wanna keep it real these things that are hardwired make some genders better candidates for things.

 

[StickStickly]

Op you are making all kinds of excuses to resolve the cognitive dissonance you have with dating white women and, from what I'm guessing, family pressure to marry a black woman. You come up with all kinds of unrelated or barely correlated statements to explain why you don't like black women. Your whole intent of this thread is to say white women submit (and are therefore better) and black women don't and that's why they are single moms. First off, if you want to look at causes for divorce you should research it and use a reliable and scientifically sound study instead of anecdotes of couples you see in public. Why? Because your opinion is invariably skewed and wreaks of bias. Your example of the "nagging byttchy" black woman and her husband is ridiculous because you don't know what is going on behind the curtains or what issues the behavior is rooted in.Most people who fight their spouse in public are usually undergoing relationship stress. The fighting is a manifestation of what is really going on that you can't see. So to make a judgement on an entire group of women based on your selective attention to negative relationships is silly. There are plenty of black women, especially of the religious type, who "submit" and also have great marriages. You probably don't put yourself around them. If you want to date and marry white women, do it. You don't need an excuse or to hate everyone else and enforce your bitterness of whatever pressure you feel onto a faceless group of people. It's okay. Really. Love your white women and move on. Be happy.

 

[Darts]

Yes. But some of us are insistent on trying to declare what works for us and what we want to be a generalized, gendered thing that is the only thing that can work for the rest of the world. Can you guess which of us is doing that



Never said men and women are built the same. You should go back and read my posts. The bolded tells everything that needs to be said about your stance and why it is what it is though. It is the case for most men who are so obsessed with the submission concept when you get down to it. There is always a facet of the necessity of female inferiority or inequality in one way or another which is why the two opposing groups will never agree.

I have my reasons for adding what you bolded...but thats another topic.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Yes because the socialization theory explains everything
Especially the concrete facts that we already know:

-like why men have bigger brains
- Why women are better at processing language and communication
-Why Men are better at processing spatial tasks and have more mathematical ability
-Why men are more left brained while women split activites between both hemispheres.
- Why their primary hormones create different responses towards stress
- Why women are more emotional and have larger Limbic systems than men.
- Why both genders process pain differently.
- and many more

None of this is nurture.. it's all nature.. has nothing to do with socialization. These are cognitive, behavioral and physical differences that no socialization can do shyt about for the most part. These differences make for some genders being better at certain things than others... that's not to say that roles can't be reversed since that is actually social... but if you wanna keep it real these things that are hardwired make some genders better candidates for things.

Yea, while we're at it, a man that puts on a dress is just as much a woman as a woman that was born one, its all in how he was socialized in learning how to act feminine.

Being a "man" is all in your mind.

 

[mcdivit85]

his happened more than a few times for me. Some of these dudes get girls from the most fukked up places. Lol

Yea I thought some of the homies were going to call the cops and file a charge on me sometimes...thinking I was abusing my girlfriends because they would basically go above and beyond with the catering attitude. It always tripped me out because I just couldn't imagine being in a relationship with a woman who didn't feel the need to do those kinds of things for her dude.

I did things for them as well, so it was quid pro quo. I just don't understand the idea of being with someone who doesn't treat you well and make your life better. Hell, isn't that a big part of the draw of having someone in your life?

Peace

 

[Chris.B]

Op you are making all kinds of excuses to resolve the cognitive dissonance you have with dating white women and, from what I'm guessing, family pressure to marry a black woman. You come up with all kinds of unrelated or barely correlated statements to explain why you don't like black women. Your whole intent of this thread is to say white women submit (and are therefore better) and black women don't and that's why they are single moms. First off, if you want to look at causes for divorce you should research it and use a reliable and scientifically sound study instead of anecdotes of couples you see in public. Why? Because your opinion is invariably skewed and wreaks of bias. Your example of the "nagging byttchy" black woman and her husband is ridiculous because you don't know what is going on behind the curtains or what issues the behavior is rooted in.Most people who fight their spouse in public are usually undergoing relationship stress. The fighting is a manifestation of what is really going on that you can't see. So to make a judgement on an entire group of women based on your selective attention to negative relationships is silly. There are plenty of black women, especially of the religious type, who "submit" and also have great marriages. You probably don't put yourself around them. If you want to date and marry white women, do it. You don't need an excuse or to hate everyone else and enforce your bitterness of whatever pressure you feel onto a faceless group of people. It's okay. Really. Love your white women and move on. Be happy.

I do this because I love black women

 

[mcdivit85]

i like snorting powder but i know my husband dislikes it, so for the happiness of my husband i say i can do without it.

???????????

 

[sanityovar8ted]

???????????

ask away

 

[mcdivit85]

If our alarm goes off, it might happen once over a 20-30 year period . And when it does the police is notified and will be there in 10 min at the latest because of our neighborhood.

But yes, if that happened over that 20-30 year period, he will get his gun to check it out, and tell me to stay put. But no, gender roles are not ingrained* in us any more than racial hierarchy is.

If a gender role isn't the reason why he would get up, then what is it? And if you don't believe in gender roles are ingrained, then why do you seem to assert that he should be the one to get up?

Peace

 

[mcdivit85]

ask away

So, your dude wifed you knowing you like to snort cocaine, have a child from your ex and have smashed the homies? I'm not even trying to clown here by the way.

Peace