Can we talk about how the Atlanta Hawks finessed the fukk out the Mavs, all over a Euro?

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no I didnt. I said he is not THAT good as in top 2-3 pick. he is overhyped as fukk. like he aint another Dirk. he shouldnt be a bust but Goran Dragic was a 2nd round pick. great value for his career. Turkoglu was #16 pick. Pretty good value. This guy isnt that damn good to be #3 pick and he wouldve been # 2 had the Kings felt he wanted to play with them. not sure what you dont understand or where I contradicted. if I were drafting I wouldnt have picked him above Knox or anyone that went before that. he is a late lottery type talent to me.

Turkgolu and Dragic were both underdrafted and in this draft if we knew their careers would both be top 5 picks :mjlol:

There isn't anyone in this draft who will be equivalent to Dirk so what are you really saying? That last sentence is absurd so I'll just agree to disagree.
 

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Turkgolu and Dragic were both underdrafted and in this draft if we knew their careers would both be top 5 picks :mjlol:

There isn't anyone in this draft who will be equivalent to Dirk so what are you really saying? That last sentence is absurd so I'll just agree to disagree.

underdrafted is irrelevant with hindsight. where was Dirk picked? ok then. :stopitslime:

what I am saying is, to me he is a bottom lottery pick, to you, he is a top 5 pick. that is what we are really arguing here and have a difference in opinion on. I mean what do yall like so much about him? and the Hawks got the better deal.
 

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underdrafted is irrelevant with hindsight. where was Dirk picked? ok then. :stopitslime:

what I am saying is, to me he is a bottom lottery pick, to you, he is a top 5 pick. that is what we are really arguing here and have a difference in opinion on. I mean what do yall like so much about him? and the Hawks got the better deal.

I don't if GMs were bad at their job and drafted terribly. You're pointing out Euros who were underdrafted due to stigmas or lack of info about foreign players at the time to justify why a Euro shouldn't be a high lotto pick? :dwillhuh:

He is a gigantic perimeter player who can handle the ball and has elite court vision. Who knows if he solves his weaknesses. None of us know who will bust or succeed. :dwillhuh:

The Hawks got the better end of the deal RIGHT NOW but given the pick will likely not amount to much then it comes down to Trae vs Luka. If Luka is as good as Dragic or Hedo, its unlikely we will say the Hawks won barring Trae looking like Steph Curry nor will him going top 5 look crazy in a redraft a few years from now.
 

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Maybe in some Timbs :usure:

He's small. He's not only shorter than advertised but physically he doesn't have much weight to him, hes frail-looking, doesn't have long arms, etc. In comparison, Sabo is 6'3" but he's much more physically imposing than TY, has a 6'8" wingspan etc. That stuff matters.
Trae has added 15 pounds of muscle since this summer:stopitslime:. He's also slightly taller than Sexton
 

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The trade has received unanimous praise from everyone in the media. I think that got some of yall ATL fans aggy. Doncic is going to be a stud, Mavs had an A+ draft.
 

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Trae has added 15 pounds of muscle since this summer:stopitslime:. He's also slightly taller than Sexton
Yeah I read that too. Good start if true, still has a long ways to go. Sexton has an over 6'7" wingspan, that's the type of thing Im talking about.
 

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I don't if GMs were bad at their job and drafted terribly. You're pointing out Euros who were underdrafted due to stigmas or lack of info about foreign players at the time to justify why a Euro shouldn't be a high lotto pick? :dwillhuh:

He is a gigantic perimeter player who can handle the ball and has elite court vision. Who knows if he solves his weaknesses. None of us know who will bust or succeed. :dwillhuh:

The Hawks got the better end of the deal RIGHT NOW but given the pick will likely not amount to much then it comes down to Trae vs Luka. If Luka is as good as Dragic or Hedo, its unlikely we will say the Hawks won barring Trae looking like Steph Curry nor will him going top 5 look crazy in a redraft a few years from now.


I can look at what you are saying as GM's were underdrafting before but now they are subject to overdraft due to those past oversights. Why was Giannis underdrafted? A lot of people knew that kid had the goods. :jbhmm: you know why, because he was RAW. Luka is highly skilled with the ball but NBA athleticism could really bother him. he is the 3rd pick in a deep draft. its crazy how raw athletes with elite length get passed over if they are black or non-white but a white guy with elite ball skills warrants such a high pick. I dont see them doing that for all of the non-white players with elite ball skills. so lets call this one like it is. :mjpls: a black player with average athleticism just isnt getting picked that high on a regular basis, I dont care how good his ball skills are.
 

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I dont see them doing that for all of the non-white players with elite ball skills. so lets call this one like it is. :mjpls: a black player with average athleticism just isnt getting picked that high on a regular basis, I dont care how good his ball skills are.

Lonzo? Steph?

Mind you Doncic is a teenager, playing in a league full of physically strong grown ass men, and he has great size for a perimeter player. Not many players regardless of race have similarities.
 

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If ATL could be made a star out of Doncic he could've been named The Don Chi-Chi. Jermaine Dupri would get some nostalgia love come back with hits, revive Usher's career again bring Mariah back convince Outkast to do one last album and issue another ATL hip hop revival.

But nah. In 5 years Doncic is gonna be the Mavs new Chandler Parsons and Trae Young will be sponsoring Rogaine in China and JD will still be figuring out how he gets no props for being a legend and slaying Janet Jackson
 

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WRONG dumbass. If you don’t watch my squad stay the fukk outta this thread.

Taurean Prince was our best player last year and he has been improving each year he’s been in the league. He’ll be one of the top 10 SFs soon
shut the fukk up loser. hawks are trae young are both trash. fukk off whitey
 

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You guys have a point with cscs hyping him up in podcast. I listen to bill Simmons regular and nba podcast and the Lowe post and bball breakdown and they been hyping dude up like he's the white Kobe.

I'm considering bushing all of them since the racial bias is so obvious.
 
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