Can someone be GAY and still be a CHRISTIAN?

[DoubleClutch]

No proof the Christian God is responsible for any of it

Well you said you believe in God. So if God exists, our current reality SHOULD prove his influence on the world more than any other religions or faith….. This is undeniable.

So how do you “choose” what God to believe in. And why should I believe you over the accounts of billions of humans experiences with God throughout history.

That’s why @Lamar Givens says:

you want to be obtuse about the overwhelming evidence

You’d have to explain all the above proofs away. Or change your perspective to say the Jewish God is the devil (like @mms)

But that would just make Jesus “God” by default.

Either way you make evidence of the “Christian” belief system being true

This just basic common sense and rational thinking

But obviously it’s much deeper than that otherwise everyone would believe

 

[Deafheaven]

A Christian is a Christian by their walk, not their proclamations. If I am an enforcer that murders people, but repent after each assignment, only to keep doing it, I'm not a murderous Christian, I'm a murderer that reads the Bible and asks for God to overlook my weakness and sin.

You ain't gotta be perfect to be Christian, but you can't incorporate your sin in conjunction with your walk.

You may have temptations from that which you have been delivered from, but if you are truly a Christian, you know how to hand those over to God.

To be a Christian, you must worship in Spirit and Truth. This means you must worship Him in your heart as well as through your knowledge of Him through His Word. If you do this, you'd never call yourself anything other than Christian. Anything else added to it dilutes it.

case in point look at this shyt.

nikkas can be whole hitman and ask for forgiveness but lord forbid they want to be gay not harming no one

by this logic Hitler could have just called himself a genocidal dictator that reads the bible and if he asked god for forgiveness and really meant it hes in heaven.

so much completely nonsensical bullshyt christians come up with to justify the fact they that don't follow 2% of the stuff in the bible.

 

[Outlaw]

Well you said you believe in God. So if God exists, our current reality SHOULD prove his influence on the world more than any other religions or faith….. This is undeniable.

So how do you “choose” what God to believe in. And why should I believe you over the accounts of billions of humans experiences with God throughout history.

That’s why @Lamar Givens says:

you want to be obtuse about the overwhelming evidence

You’d have to explain all the above proofs away. Or change your perspective to say the Jewish God is the devil (like @mms)

But that would just make Jesus “God” by default.

Either way you make evidence of the “Christian” belief system being true

This just basic common sense and rational thinking

But obviously it’s much deeper than that otherwise everyone would believe

What are the proofs? I don’t see any evidence presented that the Christian God exists

 

[DoubleClutch]

What are the proofs? I don’t see any evidence presented that the Christian God exists

So you just want to remain “obtuse about the overwhelming evidence”?

I can’t prove any particular God to you. You need to look around/or do research and come to that conclusion

Whatever it takes for YOU

If it was 100% provable that defeats the purpose of God, free will and faith.

I’m not forcing you to believe what I believe

You’re not me.

 

[Outlaw]

So you just want to remain “obtuse about the overwhelming evidence”?

I can’t prove any particular God to you. You need to look around/or do research and come to that conclusion

Whatever it takes for YOU

If it was 100% provable that defeats the purpose of God, free will and faith.

I’m not forcing you to believe what I believe

You’re not me.

You have no proof, that’s why you can’t present one single shred of evidence. Who’s to say Zeus isn’t responsible for the creation of everything?

 

[CrushedGroove]

case in point look at this shyt.

nikkas can be whole hitman and ask for forgiveness but lord forbid they want to be gay not harming no one

by this logic Hitler could have just called himself a genocidal dictator that reads the bible and if he asked god for forgiveness and really meant it hes in heaven.

so much completely nonsensical bullshyt christians come up with to justify the fact they that don't follow 2% of the stuff in the bible.

Re-read without confirmation bias

 

[DoubleClutch]

You have no proof, that’s why you can’t present one single shred of evidence. Who’s to say Zeus isn’t responsible for the creation of everything?

Ok so your God is “Zeus”?

Prove to me Zeus existed then if that’s what you’d like to believe

You can ignore the evidence against it, by all means.

But we are living today. In this era we have proof Jesus existed.

Let’s start from there.

 

[Outlaw]

Ok so your God is “Zeus”?

Prove to me Zeus existed then if that’s what you’d like to believe

You can ignore the evidence against it, by all means.

But we are living today. In this era we have proof Jesus existed.

Let’s start from there.

No my god isn’t Zeus. I’m asking you for one shred of evidence that the Christian God is the God and he actually exists.

Jesus probably existed but there is zero proof that he’s divine. Let’s not devolve into circular reasoning.

Please provide one shred of evidence for your Christian God being the one true God

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

You have no proof, that’s why you can’t present one single shred of evidence. Who’s to say Zeus isn’t responsible for the creation of everything?

Nikka just contradicted himself

The proof is overwhelming but he can't show it to you

 

[DoubleClutch]

Nikka just contradicted himself

The proof is overwhelming but he can't show it to you

I can’t give him understanding breh

 

[Outlaw]

I can’t give him understanding breh

You can’t give me any evidence breh. The audacity of you religious nut jobs wanting to lord over us with your ancient morality but can’t even be honest with yourself that you believe in absolute bullshyt with no evidence. There’s more proof of Santa Claus than your Zionist God being real

 

[Mank1nd]

I mean if your basis of belief is God loves everyone regardless if your gay or straight then I guess you could make a claim. However there are verses that are vehemently against it. That's not to say God doesn't help or guide gay people. If we were all born sinners and God still chose to guide the sinners towards him even though he knows they will continue to sin, why shouldn't he guide the effeminate who believe they are born in sin (gay) but continue to follow his teachings. As far as gay people actually pronouncing themselves as Christians despite knowingly (or unknowingly) sinning, I guess it's the similar to the Christians that go to the club on Saturday but go to church on Sunday then cussing out their coworkers on Monday but in Bible Study and Prayer meeting on Tuesday and Wednesday. Not saying what they proclaiming is right but you examine the whole concept of big sin and small sin, there is some form of hypocrisy in there.

 

[DoubleClutch]

You can’t give me any evidence breh. The audacity of you religious nut jobs wanting to lord over us with your ancient morality but can’t even be honest with yourself that you believe in absolute bullshyt with no evidence. There’s more proof of Santa Claus than your Zionist God being real

I told you Jesus is real and historical. And we have accounts from contemporary scholars and his disciples as well as eyewitness testimony of what he said and did.

You choose NOT to believe and I’m ok with that.

But I’m asking you to give me your PROOF of a better option logically since you say you believe in some other GOD.

I’m just setting up a scenario of your GOD vs my GOD based on proof which is the foundation of our respective beliefs

 

[Hov]

case in point look at this shyt.

nikkas can be whole hitman and ask for forgiveness but lord forbid they want to be gay not harming no one

by this logic Hitler could have just called himself a genocidal dictator that reads the bible and if he asked god for forgiveness and really meant it hes in heaven.

so much completely nonsensical bullshyt christians come up with to justify the fact they that don't follow 2% of the stuff in the bible.

It makes perfect sense.

Do you truly believe a racist homicidal maniac who murdered millions of humans in the most inhumane ways just because of thier race would suddenly wake up one day and confess that Jesus Christ is his Lord and Savior and start to live the by the text of the Hebrew Bible?

In theory, if that happened, then yes, God will forgive him, because He isn’t bound by our human standards or modern definitions of words.

But, we will receive the consequences of our actions, that is promises, and if you drink, drug yourself with drugs or wealth, murder millions of people and commit to a life of living under the demonic influence, your brain patterns and logic (even on a scientific level) are destroyed and (by YOUR own choice) freaked your whole entire being and mental state to a point to where a decision like that is almost a zero percent chance of being made.

If you even asked anyone for help they would try to kill you, and every human you surrounded yourself around would have no knowledge of how to safe your soul by your own doing of dictatorship.

And even if you stopped completely and decided to change, that would mean you would immediately end what you are doing, turn all your war criminal friends and family members in, and submit yourself for punishment knowing you will be tortured and murdered in the most painful and inhumane way.

Just like you did for others.

So as you’re being tortured if you still found a way to submit yourself to this Jewish Hebrew Jesus you JUST learned about but don’t know nothing about then…

Yall give these scenarios to be funny or throw concepts away but your scenario makes less sense then my beliefs

 

[Hov]

You can’t give me any evidence breh. The audacity of you religious nut jobs wanting to lord over us with your ancient morality but can’t even be honest with yourself that you believe in absolute bullshyt with no evidence. There’s more proof of Santa Claus than your Zionist God being real

There’s evidence of numerous Biblical figures existing, even Jesus. Verified by atheist and agnostic scientists. For many many many years.

Do yall do the minimal level of research before you commit to an conclusion?