Can JID and Earthgang become Superstars???

Will they become Superstars?

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 22.9%
  • No

    Votes: 33 39.8%
  • Just JID

    Votes: 30 36.1%
  • just Earthgang

    Votes: 1 1.2%

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I’ll say this. JID was an extreme Kendrick biter in my eyes early on but Dude is talented. Don’t know who is who in earthgang but their little posse cuts are pretty good. I am a hater of all the singy song shyt but they can rap well and appreciate their effort. I think I’m drunk.
 

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Nah Earthgang makes slappers. JID can rap but his voice is too annoying and he too punchline heavy.

Most JID will be is like an XV if you remember that rapper lol.
I agree with you on JID and he’s had a massive push

Earthgang havent had a mainstream push yet
 

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I agree with you on JID and he’s had a massive push

Earthgang havent had a mainstream push yet
Right they haven't had that push but if they get it people may take notice. They just need that one song.

Look at Ari Lennox with that pressure song.
 

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That’s only because he has more money behind him
This is a ridiculous statement. XV was on Warner and was exec produced by Just Blaze. He had J Cole and Kendrick on his first album. The problem was that he couldn't make a hit record and didn't have the fanbase to sustain him until he could. This was around the time J Cole was having similar problems at Columbia, but he had the fanbase to make it work; the label simply didn't believe. This was a few months before Kendrick had the same issue at Interscope. I literally sat in meetings there and watched people say Kendrick was going to maybe sell 1 million records (albums and singles) in his entire career. He didn't have a hit, and just like with Cole they downplayed his fanbase. Eventually he got the hit and the fanbase carried him over the finish line.

Cyhi was on XV's album too and had similar issues despite being on GOOD Music. On the flip side, Big Sean didn't have the fanbase but had hits out the gate. That's how shyt worked at the time. It sucks because XV was a great artist, I wanted to sign him at the time. But he wasn't in position to win, being from Kansas and without a big city of fans backing him.

Nor would I compare JID to XV. JID is Cole's artist. He has that cosign and all the benefits that come with it. XV is far more comparable to Cole before Dreamville was Dreamville. The difference is that Cole built the fanbase and XV didn't. That's not a knock on XV, it's just how the cards were dealt, including the city/state he's from. In hindsight I wish XV had signed to TDE or Dreamville. A camp that would give him the cosigns he needed, not pressure him for hits, and let him grow until he was ready for a major deal (or not).
 

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This is a ridiculous statement. XV was on Warner and was exec produced by Just Blaze. He had J Cole and Kendrick on his first album. The problem was that he couldn't make a hit record and didn't have the fanbase to sustain him until he could. This was around the time J Cole was having similar problems at Columbia, but he had the fanbase to make it work; the label simply didn't believe. This was a few months before Kendrick had the same issue at Interscope. I literally sat in meetings there and watched people say Kendrick was going to maybe sell 1 million records (albums and singles) in his entire career. He didn't have a hit, and just like with Cole they downplayed his fanbase. Eventually he got the hit and the fanbase carried him over the finish line.

Cyhi was on XV's album too and had similar issues despite being on GOOD Music. On the flip side, Big Sean didn't have the fanbase but had hits out the gate. That's how shyt worked at the time. It sucks because XV was a great artist, I wanted to sign him at the time. But he wasn't in position to win, being from Kansas and without a big city of fans backing him.

Nor would I compare JID to XV. JID is Cole's artist. He has that cosign and all the benefits that come with it. XV is far more comparable to Cole before Dreamville was Dreamville. The difference is that Cole built the fanbase and XV didn't. That's not a knock on XV, it's just how the cards were dealt, including the city/state he's from. In hindsight I wish XV had signed to TDE or Dreamville. A camp that would give him the cosigns he needed, not pressure him for hits, and let him grow until he was ready for a major deal (or not).
JID has way more money behind him and it has little to do with J cole

JID is on an imagine dragons song

JID music is not commercials
 

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JID has way more money behind him and it has little to do with J cole

JID is on an imagine dragons song

JID music is not commercials
The money is behind him because he's on J Cole's label, which is on Interscrope lmao. The point is that they are not comparable artists nor are they in comparable situations. You're comparing an imprint artist to a guy who had money behind him too but no fanbase, at the beginning of the blog era. It's just stupid. JID is not simply bigger than XV because of money, they both were on major labels. It's deeper than that.

Back to the topic though. Do I think JID can be a superstar? Probably not. Nor am I convinced he is trying to be. That Imagine Dragons song had him getting more streams than J Cole. But when the album came out it didn't really do much. I think he did less than 40k, which is kind of typical for Dreamville. Yet nobody is going to be dropped, they consistently tour, and Cole also takes them on his arena tours. Again, totally different situation than what XV faced, when selling <40k meant you were getting dropped.
 

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Isn’t he also signed to interscope and love renaissance
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The money is behind him because he's on J Cole's label, which is on Interscrope lmao. The point is that they are not comparable artists nor are they in comparable situations. You're comparing an imprint artist to a guy who had money behind him too but no fanbase, at the beginning of the blog era. It's just stupid. JID is not simply bigger than XV because of money, they both were on major labels. It's deeper than that.

Back to the topic though. Do I think JID can be a superstar? Probably not. Nor am I convinced he is trying to be. That Imagine Dragons song had him getting more streams than J Cole. But when the album came out it didn't really do much. I think he did less than 40k, which is kind of typical for Dreamville. Yet nobody is going to be dropped, they consistently tour, and Cole also takes them on his arena tours. Again, totally different situation than what XV faced, when selling <40k meant you were getting dropped.
I’m only comparing him because JID is received a huge push the past 3 years. It’s clear interscope sees him as someone with huge crossover star potential (the next Kendrick).
 

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The money is behind him because he's on J Cole's label, which is on Interscrope lmao. The point is that they are not comparable artists nor are they in comparable situations. You're comparing an imprint artist to a guy who had money behind him too but no fanbase, at the beginning of the blog era. It's just stupid. JID is not simply bigger than XV because of money, they both were on major labels. It's deeper than that.

Back to the topic though. Do I think JID can be a superstar? Probably not. Nor am I convinced he is trying to be. That Imagine Dragons song had him getting more streams than J Cole. But when the album came out it didn't really do much. I think he did less than 40k, which is kind of typical for Dreamville. Yet nobody is going to be dropped, they consistently tour, and Cole also takes them on his arena tours. Again, totally different situation than what XV faced, when selling <40k meant you were getting dropped.
The Forever Story was one of the better albums of last year.

The XV comparison Is wild regardless. Fuk the $ behind him, JID is a better rapper and makes better music.
 
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