Can any Jay Z fans come in here and explain to me why he’s the goat?

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He's been thru every era, stood relevant and did it with rapping. I think Nas is the GOAT though.
 
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Piff Perkins said:
How can you possibly make this argument when 30 million people are listening to his music on Spotify, monthly? I'd love for you to name some rappers whose music has aged better and I guarantee no one you pick is being listened to more than Jay.
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BP1, RD, Black album and parts of Vol.1 is all I would still rock with. If I feel like his music didn’t age well and half his catalog is trash then I’m entitled to that opinion. I don’t give a fukk about Spotify :mjlol:

And Pac, Nas, Big, Cube, Face, X, Snoop, Redman all aged better that Jay. Imagine listening Hola Hovito and saying that’s still dope in 2023. And Jay has a bunch of bullshyt songs just as trash as that all over his catolog.
 
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Crumple said:
- consistent high record sales
- real respect from real emcees
- married to Beyonce and manages an in tact family
- kept his nose clean in terms of jail time
- can actually write
- multiple Grammy awards
- found a way to work the club's and the streets that worked. Dope club music
- longevity - that 4:44 album was near perfect and boom bap at it's core
- not a drug addict
- literally came from nothing, from Marcy projects in Brooklyn - most people never get out the hood let alone major success
- he's healthy
- he's a great leader
- he overcame dealing with Dame Dash with proven success afterwords
- he's actually a deep thinker and an intellectual if you check his interviews
- he's an inspiration overall
- he acknowledged Kool Keith in the Source magazine as an artist with a strong fanbase for the long term
- he has a golden era classic - Reasonable Doubt
- created the Blueprint - which to me is the first adult hip hop record and let us live hip hop in later life - not regard it as a young man's craft
- he beefed with Nas head on, and Nas is a very difficult opponent. Very.

And I did not like Jay Z up untill around 2015 really.

He's Feeling it video got play on Toronto t.v when it dropped but I wasn't feeling it.

I thought he didn't take off in Toronto in the 90s.

Only for him to pack stadiums here.

I look at reality. When I went to Las Vegas in 2017 - I saw those Jay Z - 4:44 wrapped double decker buses weaving through the strip - with my own eyes - in reality - and that's facts.
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So he’s the goat because he’s a great businessman :francis: got it
 
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Stick Up Kid said:
A lot of his music is in the same 2000’s category with Lil Wayne, Luda, Nelly, etc where the music has aged terribly

Imagine listening to Hey Papi in 2023
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That was Jay z era, and it was the worst era in hip hop, the crystal popping Nintendo beats, it’s no surprise it aged terribly, I was saying it was trash when it came out, but people are like sheep and force themselves to like what’s popular
 
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