Can any Christian / Jew explain this?

[MMS]

cool read.

I personally dont rock with the Talmud. I see no text in the Tanakh that alludes to a separate complimentary oral torah being required to properly understand the written law given to Moses .

Deuteronomy 30:10​

10 if you obey the voice of the Lord your God, to keep His commandments and His statutes which are written in this Book of the Law, and if you turn to the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.​

We know Christ himself quoted from the book of Daniel at the temple... and the Septuagint was around at that time. So if the LXX was good enough for the greek speaking Jews, its good enough for me.

The talmud got suspect teaching..The mishna telling rabbi's to suck the baby penis, a trend that caused a herpes outbreak in NY?

What is oral suction circumcision and where does it come from?

How the interpretation of the ancient Hebrew words 'metzitzah b'peh' has changed can be a matter of life and death for baby boys.

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but the Jewish cats are going to tell me im a goy and dont understand their high sciences

you probably dont know their high sciences i have mixed feelings about the talmud because there is counterintuitive wisdom there

but you can tell that they took the zohar and baked their own bread so to speak (remember jesus warning about the leaven of pharisees)

in either case, I agree with your sentiment but I also know that learning traditions can give you a better understanding of why you do things and why some books were kept and others discarded. IE I read parts of the Talmud, Quran and Rigveda not because I believe them outright but because I want to know how others think that are also believers. It gives me greater insight into what I already believe and helps peel away bad ideas that I store up too.

 

[JoelB]

you probably dont know their high sciences i have mixed feelings about the talmud because there is counterintuitive wisdom there

but you can tell that they took the zohar and baked their own bread so to speak (remember jesus warning about the leaven of pharisees)

in either case, I agree with your sentiment but I also know that learning traditions can give you a better understanding of why you do things and why some books were kept and others discarded. IE I read parts of the Talmud, Quran and Rigveda not because I believe them outright but because I want to know how others think that are also believers. It gives me greater insight into what I already believe and helps peel away bad ideas that I store up too.

I for sure dont know their high sciences , imma let them hold that tho

But u right. It's hard to know where your blind side is if you only stay in echo chambers.

Thats why these types of conversations are important...Im here for the silly coli humor, but I like to learn too. If somebody has texts/resources that can add to the convo, bring em to the party

I remember I randomly went down a Mormon/LDS rabbit hole for a few month straight they wildin over there lol

 

[MMS]

I for sure dont know their high sciences , imma let them hold that tho

But u right. It's hard to know where your blind side is if you only stay in echo chambers.

Thats why these types of conversations are important...Im here for the silly coli humor, but I like to learn too. If somebody has texts/resources that can add to the convo, bring em to the party

I remember I randomly went down a Mormon/LDS rabbit hole for a few month straight they wildin over there lol

dont underestimate it

while the content might seem bizarre the patterns are real golden plates or golden threads?

 

[Koichos]

dont be united with Simeon remember that undead dogbeast. When and if you sing Adir Hu remember what I said

Possibly The Most Damning Christian Scripture That Cast Judgement Upon Islam

for how much folk act like the book of Enoch is groundbreaking, I noticed no one checked this post :mjlit: i put a new spin on "Aarons Golden Calf" that i believe is closer to the truth than yall realize What's funny to me about the Abrahamic faiths is that the concept of allegory only makes...

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Why Addir Hu?

 

[MMS]

Why Addir Hu?

Exodus 23:21 Hebrew Text Analysis

remember when you informed me of the difference between "a" and "the"

 

[Koichos]

YOU ARE ALSO A LEVI?!

A kōhén, strictly speaking. As a little perraḥ k'hunnah, my great-grandfather used to make his way along R'ḥōv Hay'hudîm to ascend the duchan at Beit Hak'neset Haḥurvah and pronounce Bîr'kat Hakōhanîm (the three-fold b'rachah prescribed by B'mîdbar 6:24-26 in Parashat Nasō') alongside his father during Shaḥarît on y'mei ḥōl.

This was well before the Ḥurvah's eventual destruction by the Yardénîm during the 5708 War of Independence. In those days, 'Émek Haḥuleh was still an undrained swamp infested by nasty yattushîm. His mother would not allow him to go anywhere near the Ḥuleh, for that was known as y'rîdat sh'ōlah (slang: 'going down into hell')!

Likewise. And here is to yesterday's fast, hoping it treated you and your family well (save it for Kiddush!):

 

[Koichos]

Exodus 23:21 Hebrew Text Analysis

Shalōm Aleichem may the better choice, as in that hymn we welcome the Shabbat Angels into our homes...

 

[MMS]

A kōhén, strictly speaking. As a little perraḥ k'hunnah, my great-grandfather used to make his way along R'ḥōv Hay'hudîm to ascend the duchan at Beit Hak'neset Haḥurvah and pronounce Bîr'kat Hakōhanîm (the three-fold b'rachah prescribed by B'mîdbar 6:24-26 in Parashat Nasō') alongside his father during Shaḥarît on y'mei ḥōl.

This was well before the Ḥurvah's eventual destruction by the Yardénîm during the 5708 War of Independence. In those days, 'Émek Haḥuleh was still an undrained swamp infested by nasty yattushîm. His mother would not allow him to go anywhere near the Ḥuleh, for that was known as y'rîdat sh'ōlah (slang: 'going down into hell')!


Likewise. And here is to yesterday's fast, hoping it treated you and your family well (save it for Kiddush!):

something that I was thinking about while reading this....could the breastplate be taken to allegorically be a "firmament"?

Bible Gateway passage: Exodus 28:15-29 - King James Version

And thou shalt make the breastplate of judgment with cunning work; after the work of the ephod thou shalt make it; of gold, of blue, and of purple, and of scarlet, and of fine twined linen, shalt thou make it. Foursquare it shall be being doubled; a span shall be the length thereof, and a span...

www.biblegateway.com

 

[MMS]

Shalōm Aleichem may the better choice, as in that hymn we welcome the Shabbat Angels into our homes...

lets just say, its a play on words like this post here:

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/can-any-christian-jew-explain-this.984023/page-14#post-49855616

pardon this turkey since you said i dabble in "gobbledy gook xianese"

 

[Digital Omen]

I got another question for Jews and Christians

Can one of you explain this:

Genesis 19:30-36 NIV

30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains,for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave.
31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth.
32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”



33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.”
35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father.

 

[MMS]

I got another question for Jews and Christians

Can one of you explain this:

Genesis 19:30-36 NIV

30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains,for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave.
31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth.
32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”



33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.”
35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father.

the means of pregnancy may not be as you think

both Abraham and Lot came out of Ur of the Chaldees (light of the chaldeans)...meaning they are not created in the way you think

in other words. The wine itself may be the mode of pregnancy

so i hope you enjoyed that box wine

 

[Digital Omen]

the means of pregnancy may not be as you think

both Abraham and Lot came out of Ur of the Chaldees (light of the chaldeans)...meaning they are not created in the way you think

in other words. The wine itself may be the mode of pregnancy

so i hope you enjoyed that box wine

+10 for originality as I never heard that Juelzing before, but still WTF? The wine got them pregnant? Not the getting him drunk and him hitting it raw lifetime regret incest impregnation ?

 

[MMS]

+10 for originality as I never heard that Juelzing before, but still WTF? The wine got them pregnant? Not the getting him drunk and him hitting it raw lifetime regret incest impregnation ?

thats the same feeling i had

but like I said you gotta dive deep if you are going to begin to understand genesis

remember one of Esaus wives Adah means "adornments" and another his wives means Basemath "sweet smells"

Genesis 8:21

And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

how many levels can you see now

when God came down to see the tower built by men. He confused their languages...so that they would no longer understand eachother...how could people have had one speech and one tongue?

 

[Koichos]

something that I was thinking about while reading this....could the breastplate be taken to allegorically be a "firmament"?

Bible Gateway passage: Exodus 28:15-29 - King James Version

And thou shalt make the breastplate of judgment with cunning work; after the work of the ephod thou shalt make it; of gold, of blue, and of purple, and of scarlet, and of fine twined linen, shalt thou make it. Foursquare it shall be being doubled; a span shall be the length thereof, and a span...

www.biblegateway.com

It's complicated... but the short answer is no.

 

[Koichos]

lets just say, its a play on words like this post here:

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/can-any-christian-jew-explain-this.984023/page-14#post-49855616

pardon this turkey since you said i dabble in "gobbledy gook xianese"

Aha! I had my suspicions that you were attempting to connect הוּא hu (the masculine singular nominative pronoun 'he') with the Egyptian 'Hu' (properly Ḥu or Ħu, a guttural sound similar to a heavily aspirated h).

One who fails to distinguish between the letters ה (h) and ח (ḥ) may come to read Y'sha'yahu 8:17 as וְהִכֵּיתִי לַייָ v'hikkeiti ladōnay ('I will strike...') as opposed to וְחִכִּיתִי לַייָ v'ḥikkiti ladōnay ('I will wait for Adōnay')!!!

Remember, in Hebrew transliteration:

ה (h)
ח (ḥ or h)
כ, ךְ (ch, ch)
כּ, ךּ (k, k)

The first letter in the Egyptian Ḥu corresponds to the Hebrew letter ח (ḥ), not ה (h)!