Cam'ron & Ma$e Argue DMX Was A Better Rapper Than 2Pac: '[He] Had More Than 'Pac

[Budda]

DMX ain't a great lyricist


The bullshyt, the drama (uh), the guns, the armor (uh)
The city, the farmer, the babies, the mama (what?)
The projects, the drugs (uh), the children, the thugs (uh)
The tears, the hugs, the love, the slugs (come on)
The funerals, the wakes, the churches, the coffins (uh)
The heartbroken mothers, it happens too often (why?)
The problems, the things we use to solve 'em (what?)

This is the lyrics in one of the song posted, DMX got where he did with his passion, delivery charisma and voice, not because he had bars with double entredres, not because he was a big advocate of multisyllabic rhyming, not because of punchlines, he was simple to the point and had a pain in his voice and delivery that resonated with the audience.

Pac is really from the same cloth, just like Kool G Rap would be the forefather for the likes of Nas and AZ, Scarface would be the equivalent for DMX and Tupac, saying that Tupac was far more profound and poetic, to me that equates to him being lyrically better.

 

[Knicksman20]

I can't say I was only in NY and would visit family in Virginia and DC mostly during that era and they all knew who Jay-Z was.

Same with me. My fam in NC & Virginia knew who Jay-Z was in the 90's

 

[livindajetlife]

NY. What that got to do with anything? I got mad west coast rappers over east coast rappers

Yeah I figured that.. and oh I believe you, just something about 2 pac and old head New Yorkers that I can’t put my finger on

 

[Budda]

Name these legendary game changing 2pac songs please




Smile? Until the end of time? Thug Passion? Toss It Up?

Someone really going to say this on a Hip Hop forum?, WTF.

 

[David_TheMan]

When you say peer do you mean popularity? Because Jay had Big on his first album, Pac dissed Jay multiple times. Jay was not some nobody. He had a name in the industry in the mid 90s. He was a gold artist off his first album and a platinum artist by 1997.

He wasn't as big as them from 95-97 but he was a somebody then.

Jay was irrelevant natinonally in 94-97
Stop with rewriting history.
OUtside folks in NYC no one knew who the hell he was or cared.
Until movie soundtracks and big pimpin he was a regional act.

 

[livindajetlife]

Snoop is not smoking Pac in no Verzuz wtf are yall nikkas smoking. And no Pac songs on the level of Slippin besides Changes? I gotta stay off this forum.

Lol I’m telling you these nikkas start saying wild shyt when it comes to pac lmaooo

 

[FreshAIG]

Yeah I figured that.. and oh I believe you, just something about 2 pac and old head New Yorkers that I can’t put my finger on

Ask @spliz I used to hate on Pac, but I fukk with Pac now. Trust this not hate at all.

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

I’m not sure why this is a question; X was better.

 

[FreshAIG]

Jay was irrelevant natinonally in 94-97
Stop with rewriting history.
OUtside folks in NYC no one knew who the hell he was or cared.
Until movie soundtracks and big pimpin he was a regional act.

You lived everywhere?

And y'all be rewriting history acting like Jay was a nobody in the mid 90s. That's far from the truth. "Ain't No" got mad radio play and TV play.

 

[livindajetlife]

Ask @spliz I used to hate on Pac, but I fukk with Pac now. Trust this not hate at all.

You just said everything I figured from the jump

 

[livindajetlife]

You lived everywhere?

And y'all be rewriting history acting like Jay was a nobody in the 90s. That's far from the truth. "Ain't No" got mad radio play and TV play.

He said 94-97 not the “90’s”

 

[Knicksman20]

Ask @spliz I used to hate on Pac, but I fukk with Pac now. Trust this not hate at all.

Some of these nikkas here see NY & then immediately go to the bias bullshyt. You've been around long enough to know lol

 

[Juggalo Fred]

Juggalos definitely rock with Pac more than DMX

Dmx was great though

 

[livindajetlife]

Some of these nikkas here see NY & then immediately go to the bias bullshyt. You've been around long enough to know lol

“Knicksman” lol shyt never fails

 

[FreshAIG]

He said 94-97 not the “90’s”

I edited to say mid 90s. Jay was a factor in the mid 90s. Again, I'm not saying he was who he became a few years later, but acting like Jay was on some low-level no name shyt is just flat out incorrect and re-writing history.