California dreaming to lake effect legacy: 2024-2025 Chicago Bears 🐻 season thread

[Brozay]

Breh please keep it 100 with me you think Jayden would look good in a bears uniform today? Caleb deep ball accuracy is but so was Joe burrow and Josh Allen their rookie seasons not saying Caleb will turn into those QBs but I will be patient with Caleb since this organization is a mess and is honestly honestly, how I feel right now is that Caleb career will be similar to baker Mayfield and Sam darnold he will move on to a different team with better ownership,better coaching and ball out I don't trust the bears to do the right thing if they don't fire poles Caleb won't succeed here

I’m not all the way down on Caleb or anything but there is some damning stuff from his rookie year and it’s basically the stuff people had called out pre draft (which makes it more concerning imo)

I do think Jayden is looking like a transcendent talent. I think he's a guy that shines anywhere. Jayden also walked into a franchise that’s been down as bad as the Bears and just flipped everything upside down. I think it’s fair to note that Poles seemingly completely missed on him

 

[Deafheaven]

LOOK AT 2023 JF ON THAT
DEEP BALL CHART WITH THIS TRASH OLINE AND LESS WEAPONS.

OLINE, WALDRON, FLUS
AND NOBODY ELSE IS THE EXCUSE FOR HIS TRASH ACCURACY.

IF DUDE COULD HIT THE LAYUPS
THE BEARS WOULD BE IN
THE PLAYOFFS REGARDLESS OF
FLUS GOOFS BECAUSE THEY WOULDNT
BE AVERAGING 18PPG


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[Deafheaven]

I’m not all the way down on Caleb or anything but there is some damning stuff from his rookie year and it’s basically the stuff people had called out pre draft (which makes it more concerning imo)

I do think Jayden is looking like a transcendent talent. I think he's a guy that shines anywhere. Jayden also walked into a franchise that’s been down as bad as the Bears and just flipped everything upside down. I think it’s fair to note that Poles seemingly completely missed on him

Would he be bringing Kliff with him?


I don't think any of the other rookies would have done dramatically better here this year with this patchwork OLine and terrible offensive scheme. Jayden may have scrambled for 1300 yards but penix, nix, probably would on IR by now.

 

[CHICAGO]

Breh please keep it 100 with me you think Jayden would look good in a bears uniform today? Caleb deep ball accuracy is but so was Joe burrow and Josh Allen their rookie seasons not saying Caleb will turn into those QBs but I will be patient with Caleb since this organization is a mess and is honestly honestly, how I feel right now is that Caleb career will be similar to baker Mayfield and Sam darnold he will move on to a different team with better ownership,better coaching and ball out I don't trust the bears to do the right thing if they don't fire poles Caleb won't succeed here

WHO WERE ALLENS
AND BURROWS TOP WR
THEIR ROOKIE SEASONS?

CALEB CAME IN WITH
A STACKED RECIEVING CORE
FROM THE RB TO THE TE



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[Brozay]

Would he be bringing Kliff with him?


I don't think any of the other rookies would have done dramatically better here this year with this patchwork OLine and terrible offensive scheme. Jayden may have scrambled for 1300 yards but penix, nix, probably would on IR by now.

I think it’s fair to say that Daniels is uplifting Kliff more than Kliff is lifting him. It’s not to suggest Kliff isn’t doing a good job, but he wasn’t exactly a name that instilled a ton of confidence heading into the season.

I’m boiling this down to Poles fukked up missing on Jayden, at this point it’s safe to say this guy is looking like an absolute star that will compete for MVPs. Our guy has historic sack issues, isn’t seeing open guys, throwing erratically and legitimately has one of the worst deep balls I can recall seeing. I’m not putting that all on Caleb but he also needs to be held responsible for his own performance

 

[prime]

WHO WERE ALLENS
AND BURROWS TOP WR
THEIR ROOKIE SEASONS?

CALEB CAME IN WITH
A STACKED RECIEVING CORE
FROM THE RB TO THE TE



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I don't think it matters who the WR is a lot of these throws are awful and calling swift a good RB is laughable

 

[CHICAGO]

I don't think it matters who the WR is a lot of these throws are awful and calling swift a good RB is laughable

I SAID RECIEVING CORE.

SWIFT IS A GOOD RECIEVING RB



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[prime]

I think it’s fair to say that Daniels is uplifting Kliff more than Kliff is lifting him. It’s not to suggest Kliff isn’t doing a good job, but he wasn’t exactly a name that instilled a ton of confidence heading into the season.

I’m boiling this down to Poles fukked up missing on Jayden, at this point it’s safe to say this guy is looking like an absolute star that will compete for MVPs. Our guy has historic sack issues, isn’t seeing open guys, throwing erratically and legitimately has one of the worst deep balls I can recall seeing. I’m not putting that all on Caleb but he also needs to be held responsible for his own performance

Brozay you're a good poster Breh but come on kliff had Kyler looking like a rising superstar his rookie year kliff isn't a bad offensive coach Jayden is looking great but to say Jayden is making kliff look good is crazy look at Sam darnold he's with a great offense mind,decent oline and is legit a top 10 QB this season I am not saying Caleb is perfect and there is some things to be concerned about but I think a lot of you guys under rated coaching and offensive line I don't see any rookie QB being successful here the coaching,oline and culture is awful the bears need a total reset that's why Ryan poles gotta go

 

[prime]

I SAID RECIEVING CORE.

SWIFT IS A GOOD RECIEVING RB



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Once again look at that video it doesn't matter who's the WR if a QB is a inaccurate passer then the WR won't get the ball you said who josh allen wide Receivers was his rookie year and I showed you a video showing Allen was throwing uncatchable balls like I continue to say, Caleb is an inaccurate passer right now and his footwork is awful but those are things you can work on and hopefully he does

 

[Deafheaven]

Brozay you're a good poster Breh but come on kliff had Kyler looking like a rising superstar his rookie year kliff isn't a bad offensive coach Jayden is looking great but to say Jayden is making kliff look good is crazy look at Sam darnold he's with a great offense mind,decent oline and is legit a top 10 QB this season I am not saying Caleb is perfect and there isn't some things to be concerned about but I think a lot of you guys under rated coaching and offensive line I don't see any rookie QB being successful here the coaching,oline and culture is awful the bears need a total reset that's why Ryan poles gotta go

The whole “Poles may be fired” if the coach wants it shows how trash this org is lol. If he is expendable and bad enough to be fired…fire him

 

[Brozay]

Brozay you're a good poster Breh but come on kliff had Kyler looking like a rising superstar his rookie year kliff isn't a bad offensive coach Jayden is looking great but to say Jayden is making kliff look good is crazy look at Sam darnold he's with a great offense mind,decent oline and is legit a top 10 QB this season I am not saying Caleb is perfect and there isn't some things to be concerned about but I think a lot of you guys under rated coaching and offensive line I don't see any rookie QB being successful here the coaching,oline and culture is awful the bears need a total reset that's why Ryan poles gotta go

like I said, I’m not down all the way on Caleb and recognize it’s not all on him, but the things people worried about with him are manifesting his rookie season (regardless of where we want to place blame). is he being helped enough? no. should he escape blame? no.

I really do think Jayden is just looking like a special talent / individual. The whole basis here for me is that Poles seems to get to skate by on missing on Jayden. I don’t think he should be given that pass. It seems like he whiffed on a supreme talent here in Jayden

 

[Deafheaven]

like I said, I’m not down all the way on Caleb and recognize it’s not all on him, but the things people worried about with him are manifesting his rookie season (regardless of where we want to place blame). is he being helped enough? no. should he escape blame? no.

I really do think Jayden is just looking like a special talent / individual. The whole basis here for me is that Poles seems to get to skate by on missing on Jayden. I don’t think he should be given that pass. It seems like he whiffed on a supreme talent here in Jayden

Poles should 100% be fired soon as the season ends.

His vision has failed and any competent team would line up the gm and coach if the current one is ass

 

[prime]

like I said, I’m not down all the way on Caleb and recognize it’s not all on him, but the things people worried about with him are manifesting his rookie season (regardless of where we want to place blame). is he being helped enough? no. should he escape blame? no.

I really do think Jayden is just looking like a special talent / individual. The whole basis here for me is that Poles seems to get to skate by on missing on Jayden. I don’t think he should be given that pass. It seems like he whiffed on a supreme talent here in Jayden

And that's where we disagree. I think if jayden was here he would look just like Caleb, maybe more accurate but he will have some good games and some terrible games,he would be sacked a lot and Caleb would be ROY looking great and people would still want Ryan poles fired

 

[prime]

The whole “Poles may be fired” if the coach wants it shows how trash this org is lol. If he is expendable and bad enough to be fired…fire him

A good organization would fire Ryan poles after the Packers game, poles only have one year on his deal so maybe Warren can convince the McCaskey's to fire him

 

[Deafheaven]

A good organization would fire Ryan poles after the Packers game, poles only have one year on his deal so maybe Warren can convince the McCaskey's to fire him

IDK why ud keep him. Rebuilds dont take 3 years in the NFL