Caitlyn Clark's game had more TV viewers than any NBA game this season on ESPN

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WNBA players are criminally underpaid.....them billion contracts should be enough to pay the top players at least a million a year.....the coach for the Las Vegas Aces makes that :patrice:

How are they underpaid when the league loses money every year and what billion dollar contracts are you talking about?

The only reason the WNBA functions is because the NBA gives them money. The women are literally paid by the handout the men give them.

Same people saying the women should be making more money don't watch the WNBA.
 

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For some reason it seems like there ain’t been that many NBA games on tv this year. When I look for an NBA game to be on tv they’ll be showing something else on tnt or ESPN.
 

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Again it's supply and demand. You can't give them these things if the money isn't there.

No way would current players go for that as you'd be creating the same situation that the NFL had years ago in rookies coming in and making more than current players.

I agree with supply-demand...However, in order to build that demand there needs to be a real investment to build the quality of the league... The NBA/Players should invest 1-2% of its revenue back into the WNBA.....Investing 1-2% would not break the players...Once you start making millions making 1% less is not going to contribute to you going broke....That investment would go towards:

Offseason strength/conditioning problem
Charter Flights
Bonuses for top draft picks
Higher salaries for better coaches
Higher salaries for players


NBA teams hiring former WNBA players is hurting the WNBA coaching/front office ranks....If you look at some of the WNBA asst coaches they have very little history of playing pro basketball......The NBA hiring Swin Cash,Kara Lawson, Tereas Wetherspoon,etc...is bad for the WNBA ...They would be better off paying the ex-players to work for the WNBA....Hammon made it back to the WNBA but that was only after she got tired of waiting for an NBA team to give her a HC job. It also took 1 million dollars to sign her.
 

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I agree with supply-demand...However, in order to build that demand there needs to be a real investment to build the quality of the league... The NBA/Players should invest 1-2% of its revenue back into the WNBA.....Investing 1-2% would not break the players...Once you start making millions making 1% less is not going to contribute to you going broke....That investment would go towards:

Offseason strength/conditioning problem
Charter Flights
Bonuses for top draft picks
Higher salaries for better coaches
Higher salaries for players


NBA teams hiring former WNBA players is hurting the WNBA coaching/front office ranks....If you look at some of the WNBA asst coaches they have very little history of playing pro basketball......The NBA hiring Swin Cash,Kara Lawson, Tereas Wetherspoon,etc...is bad for the WNBA ...They would be better off paying the ex-players to work for the WNBA....Hammon made it back to the WNBA but that was only after she got tired of waiting for an NBA team to give her a HC job. It also took 1 million dollars to sign her.

There's a hundred million women in the United States.

Go get your own.
 

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Has anyone ever received a Nielsen box? Where do they come up with these rating numbers?

I was a Nielsen panelist for a couple of years from about 2015-2017. Randomly got an invitation in the mail. They sent out a little pager sized monitor that, no lie, registers what you're watching based off of an inaudible audio signal, so you had to keep it on you at all times, and occasionally move it to keep it from going to sleep like jiggling a mouse to keep a PC awake. Came with an adapter that you needed to plug in between your headphones and your phone, or whatever you used as a MP3 player if you were listening to personal music. Was low-key annoying, really. In return, they would send $20 in cash each month as compensation.

Now, I think they do that kind of paneling less often, because a lot of live TV streaming services just have Nielsen data collection built in.
 

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I agree with supply-demand...However, in order to build that demand there needs to be a real investment to build the quality of the league... The NBA/Players should invest 1-2% of its revenue back into the WNBA.....Investing 1-2% would not break the players...Once you start making millions making 1% less is not going to contribute to you going broke....That investment would go towards:

Offseason strength/conditioning problem
Charter Flights
Bonuses for top draft picks
Higher salaries for better coaches
Higher salaries for players


NBA teams hiring former WNBA players is hurting the WNBA coaching/front office ranks....If you look at some of the WNBA asst coaches they have very little history of playing pro basketball......The NBA hiring Swin Cash,Kara Lawson, Tereas Wetherspoon,etc...is bad for the WNBA ...They would be better off paying the ex-players to work for the WNBA....Hammon made it back to the WNBA but that was only after she got tired of waiting for an NBA team to give her a HC job. It also took 1 million dollars to sign her.
Those things still won't solve the fundamental problem with the WNBA though in that people just don't care about the product compared to their college peers who have less money and resources but garner more attention. When the college game is more entertaining than the WNBA product with less resources and lower tier coaching, you have a problem. It's the exact reason why a lot of those coaches want no part of jumping to the WNBA as they'd essentially be out of sight and out of mind in the WNBA game. You can blame it on money sure, but they have arguably more visibility and resources than the college game does.

It's also not the NBA player's responsiblity to give up revenue to help out their WNBA counterpart. It'd be nice if they did, but they shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

The biggest issue currently facing the IMO is that nearly half the owners (or somewhere around that number) just don't have the bread or resources compared to the other owners that own NBA teams as well. If they really want to start solving the problem, they need to kick the broke owners out and bring some in that will actually have the money to spend to improve the game.
 
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Those things still won't solve the fundamental problem with the WNBA though in that people just don't care about the product compared to their college peers who have less money and resources but garner more attention. When the college game is more entertaining than the WNBA product with less resources and lower tier coaching, you have a problem. It's the exact reason why a lot of those coaches want no part of jumping to the WNBA as they'd essentially be out of sight and out of mind in the WNBA game. You can blame it on money sure, but they have arguably more visibility and resources than the college game does.

It's also not the NBA player's responsiblity to give up revenue to help out their WNBA counterpart. It'd be nice if they did, but they shouldn't feel obligated to do so.
The WNBA play is way better than college women's ball. You got tall fat girls all over college ball. They can't survive in the W at all.
 

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Top draft picks should get a bonus (paid for by the WNBA or NBA)

#1 pick- 1m
#2 pick- 750k
#3 pick- 500k
#4 pick- 250k
#5 pick- 150k
#6 pick- 100k
#7 pick- 50k
#8 pick- 25k

Lottery picks should also get endorsement deals

Give these kids some incentives
Have you watched the WNBA draft, after the 3rd pick, most of the time, the rest can't even make the roster. Sometimes after the 1st pick. 2024 draft is different and that's why no one is interested in trading their 2024 pick.
 

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The WNBA play is way better than college women's ball. You got tall fat girls all over college ball. They can't survive in the W at all.
If that's the case, then why isn't it translating into ratings and more viewership eventhough the WNBA has more money and resources to market their product than the college game does. The moment Caitlyn Clark jumps to the WNBA, she's going to be out of sight and out of mind compared to if she was still in college.

We just saw the exact thing not too long ago with Sabrina Ionescu who was hyped up just like Clark is. She is putting up numbers in the WNBA, yet it's not translating into viewership.
 

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How does Adam Silver watch this and not hit the panic button? The NBA ain't getting the TV viewers they deserve because of Load Managing.

The sad Part is that Caitlyn Clark is going to go from 2.5 Million TV viewers at Iowa to Adam Silver's WNBA with 100K people watching her games because Adam Silver can't market the Women's game. She is going to disappear the second she goes to the WNBA which is why I think she goes back to Iowa for another year with a NIL Bag that can buy a whole WNBA roster.

It’s looking like she need to be in the wnba right now :yeshrug:
 
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