Cacs should not be able to claim ancient Greece

[ChatGPT-5]

That's exactly OP's argument, and the point is that most those people you listed don't claim Greece like that. Not Scandinavians (as I wrote in my first post), Slavic I highly doubt (due to Balkan centuries-old conflicts), etc. The real point is that coli brehs for some reason think Europe is some homegeneous continent where are all similar (ironically, the same type of ignorance Europeans have towards Africa) and all claim Greece. That's simply not the case. Like some breh said, European countries are much more likely to claim or brag about THEIR OWN COUNTRY than care about ancient Rome or Greece. Seems like a lot of people keep forgetting this is the continent that created nationalism.

Even here in France, while Ancient Greece is "claimed", it's much less than Ancient Rome for example, what with french being a romance language and current France having been part of the Roman Empire, whose remains can still be seen today here and there (more so in the South of France to my knowledge). No such linguistic or historical link with Greece, for example.

Also, there is a vast misunderstanding about the term "barbarians". It is only centuries AFTER Ancient Greeks used that term that it took the negative sense it has now. Back in ancient Greece, the term "barbarian" was STRICTLY linguistical, as in "those who do not speak our language". THAT'S IT. It did not mean "savages" or whatever negative synonym we would have nowadays. Ancient Greeks had no problem admiring "barbarians" like Egyptians, Persians, etc.

I have absolutely no idea what you mean by the bolded. Egypt is Norh-East African, that's simple geography. Just like Senegal is West Africa.

And again, "cacs" don't even claim everything on their continent, you think people from Denmark care about Portugal? And you can claim whatever you want, who's stopping you? Look up the works of Cheick Anta Diop
But I have a feeling that brehs in this thread are talking about white americans who don't know shyt either about Europe, nor European history

I don't see Greeks nor people that remotely look like them playing in Spartan 300. Dare black people to play ancient egypt and watch the uproar, and what's funny is you could get a bunch of ethiopians, people that actually DID look like the egyptians and cacs would still claim it as false.

Let's not pretend like cacs don't boast Greek and Rome inventions as European/White inventions. When does the mainstream mention Egyptian inventions as the black races accomplishment? All of a sudden it's not black nor african, it's specifically Egyptian. You can bury your head in the sand, but the proof is there.

 

[SchrodingersStrapped!]

Brehs love to annex the nearest thing to white... Go ask a Greek motherfukker what he is

 

[mbewane]

I don't see Greeks nor people that remotely look like them playing in Spartan 300. Dare black people to play ancient egypt and watch the uproar, and what's funny is you could get a bunch of ethiopians, people that actually DID look like the egyptians and cacs would still claim it as false.

Let's not pretend like cacs don't boast Greek and Rome inventions as European/White inventions. When does the mainstream mention Egyptian inventions as the black races accomplishment? All of a sudden it's not black nor african, it's specifically Egyptian. You can bury your head in the sand, but the proof is there.

As I said, I think you don't know much more about Europe than White Americans, who are the ones doing Spartan 300. As other threads I've read about Europe on the coli, this has noting to do with reality of Europe, and Americans (White and Black) keep projecting their insecurities, frustations, aspirations...on a fantasized "Europe" that doesn't exist in the facts. The whole basis of this thread is the false american assumption that all Europeans "claim" Ancient Greece, which just isn't true. I don't know why that's so hard for you to understand

At no point did I deny that White people misportray Egypt. I said Egypt is North-East Africa. Notice I say "North-East AFRICA". I don't care what "cacs" say it was, and if you do (as it seems), that's your problem, not mine.

My head is far from buried, that's precisely why I can point out factuals errors in this thread. It serves no purpose to correct bullshyt by saying bullshyt.

 

[SubZero]

The funniest thing is that: parts of Ancient Greece had black colonies and the people were black.

Perhaps later in the day when I'm a tad more focused, I will post academic sources of these colonies and how Greek historians described them.

 

[satam55]

Why do cacs get to claim ancient Egypt wasn't black just cause the Egyptians looked more like black east African?
when east Africans are clearly black.

Yet get to claim ancient Greece even tho they are basically Christian middle easterners? They are not Aryan and have heavy non Nordic blood.


This bruh looking afghani

A caccette brings this man home and her parents would be like "this ay-rab aint marrying ma daughter"

This nikka walk into a bar in Tennessee everybody would be grilling him. He look like Raj in tech support

Greeks look like Turks, arabs , central Asian. A Greek would be looked at funny by cacs but they want to claim his history.



Why do Germans Brits and cacs in general get to claim Greek civilisation when they look like this

We are failing by not shytting on the basis of their while argument of supremacy.

Without Greece cacs lose a 1000 years of civilization and have to admit they were in caves raping each other and living in squalor and were getting owned by black Moors and arabs until 1500. All they have is 1700 and on. 300 years is a fart in the wind.

Thoughts ? Why do we let them get away without ridiculous claim?

Professor BlackTruth did a video this back in 2009:

Here's part one of the groundbreaking series that blew the lid off the lie of some pure-white Greece.

In this part we'll talk about what Africa gave to Greece and where the decision to bleach Greece came from.

In the final part we'll examine what the condition of the northern Europeans was at the time of ancient greece and why they have nothing to do with Greece.

This is the dagger in the heart of the Euroclowns!

 

[Sukairain]

They don't get to claim ancient Greece or even ancient Rome for that matter because Greeks and Romans regarded all Europeans except for each other as uncivilised barbarians and savages. The Greeks and Romans looked towards Africa, Asia and the Middle East for interactions with other civilised nations. They interacted with them for trade, and exchanging and discussing technology and intellectual developments.

White supremacists like to talk about any non-whites who achieved shyt as being part-white or having some distant white ancestor (otherwise, they say, it would not be possible for a coloured person to do anything significant); and white supremacist countries such as Nazi Germany and South Africa awarded a status to certain non-whites who they felt were useful or important in some way as 'honourary whites'.

I think we need to flip the script on white supremacists by taking away two of their proudest points - the ancient Greeks and Romans - by considering them as honourary non-whites, or saying that it was non-white blood and influence that shaped the development of ancient Greece and Rome. Clearly they did not give a fukk about France, Germany, England, Spain, the Scandinavian countries etc. Rome never ever lost sleep over some fool starting shyt in their white possessions like Hispania Ulterior, Gaul or Britannia, but you know it was DEFCON 1 if some instability started up in Egypt, which was the most prized possession of the Roman empire. Rome's fiercest rivals were all either African or Asian - Carthage and Egypt in Africa, and Parthia in Asia. For the Greeks, it was the same - their fiercest rival was Persia. It's no coincidence that Alexander didn't bother to invade a single European country and instead focused his wars of conquest on Persia, India, and Egypt - because white people weren't about shyt 2400 years ago, no matter what white supremacists claim.

 

[Entropy Fan]

I don't see Greeks nor people that remotely look like them playing in Spartan 300. Dare black people to play ancient egypt and watch the uproar, and what's funny is you could get a bunch of ethiopians, people that actually DID look like the egyptians and cacs would still claim it as false.

Let's not pretend like cacs don't boast Greek and Rome inventions as European/White inventions. When does the mainstream mention Egyptian inventions as the black races accomplishment? All of a sudden it's not black nor african, it's specifically Egyptian. You can bury your head in the sand, but the proof is there.

I believe breh is half white

 

[Entropy Fan]

They don't get to claim ancient Greece or even ancient Rome for that matter because Greeks and Romans regarded all Europeans except for each other as uncivilised barbarians and savages. The Greeks and Romans looked towards Africa, Asia and the Middle East for interactions with other civilised nations. They interacted with them for trade, and exchanging and discussing technology and intellectual developments.

White supremacists like to talk about any non-whites who achieved shyt as being part-white or having some distant white ancestor (otherwise, they say, it would not be possible for a coloured person to do anything significant); and white supremacist countries such as Nazi Germany and South Africa awarded a status to certain non-whites who they felt were useful or important in some way as 'honourary whites'.

I think we need to flip the script on white supremacists by taking away two of their proudest points - the ancient Greeks and Romans - by considering them as honourary non-whites, or saying that it was non-white blood and influence that shaped the development of ancient Greece and Rome. Clearly they did not give a fukk about France, Germany, England, Spain, the Scandinavian countries etc. Rome never ever lost sleep over some fool starting shyt in their white possessions like Hispania Ulterior, Gaul or Britannia, but you know it was DEFCON 1 if some instability started up in Egypt, which was the most prized possession of the Roman empire. Rome's fiercest rivals were all either African or Asian - Carthage and Egypt in Africa, and Parthia in Asia. For the Greeks, it was the same - their fiercest rival was Persia. It's no coincidence that Alexander didn't bother to invade a single European country and instead focused his wars of conquest on Persia, India, and Egypt - because white people weren't about shyt 2400 years ago, no matter what white supremacists claim.

This breh gets it


We are always on defensive mode while cacs are in attack. I think we should flip that and have them backtracking and stuttering. Take the air out their puffed up chests. Moors and Ottomans ruled good chunks of Europe in the 1400s and 1500s. So it's laughable that they claim a 2000 year long rein.

 

[SubZero]

They don't get to claim ancient Greece or even ancient Rome for that matter because Greeks and Romans regarded all Europeans except for each other as uncivilised barbarians and savages. The Greeks and Romans looked towards Africa, Asia and the Middle East for interactions with other civilised nations. They interacted with them for trade, and exchanging and discussing technology and intellectual developments.

White supremacists like to talk about any non-whites who achieved shyt as being part-white or having some distant white ancestor (otherwise, they say, it would not be possible for a coloured person to do anything significant); and white supremacist countries such as Nazi Germany and South Africa awarded a status to certain non-whites who they felt were useful or important in some way as 'honourary whites'.

I think we need to flip the script on white supremacists by taking away two of their proudest points - the ancient Greeks and Romans - by considering them as honourary non-whites, or saying that it was non-white blood and influence that shaped the development of ancient Greece and Rome. Clearly they did not give a fukk about France, Germany, England, Spain, the Scandinavian countries etc. Rome never ever lost sleep over some fool starting shyt in their white possessions like Hispania Ulterior, Gaul or Britannia, but you know it was DEFCON 1 if some instability started up in Egypt, which was the most prized possession of the Roman empire. Rome's fiercest rivals were all either African or Asian - Carthage and Egypt in Africa, and Parthia in Asia. For the Greeks, it was the same - their fiercest rival was Persia. It's no coincidence that Alexander didn't bother to invade a single European country and instead focused his wars of conquest on Persia, India, and Egypt - because white people weren't about shyt 2400 years ago, no matter what white supremacists claim.

It depends on the part of European you are alluding to. Western Europeans do claim the Romans cuz they were civilized by the Romans and most of them still have elements of Romans in their population and the primary languages they speak have origins in Roman Latin. The only outliers are the Celts in Ireland and Scotland (the Celts in France were colonized by the Romans as well) were the Romans couldn't defeat. And even when the Germanic tribes (vandals/barbarians) - vikings, Normans, Angles, Saxons etc. - from Northern Europe migrated down South and destroyed Rome, they never touched the civilization, they left everything intact and assimilated into. So, they have no other choice than to claim the Romans.

As for Greece, they do claim Greece albeit not as much as they claim Romans cuz they're all still the house/civilization Rome built. Also, without the Spartans defeating the Persians - the history of Europe would be different today, hence they claim Greece as well.

To understand Europe, you have to divide the continent into four:

1). Western Europe (from the British Isle to Central Europe): overwhelmingly Germanic, Celts, Romans etc.

2). Eastern Europe: overwhelmingly Slavs and other minor tribes.

3). Northern Europe (Scandinavia): Germanic, Slavic, and other minor tribes.

4). Southern Europe (what used to be Iberian peninsula): a lot of admixture with Africans

Even the Slavs subtly claim Rome cuz their Orthodox Church is one of Rome's offspring. And the fact that Roman Catholic is still very big in Europe shows the influence the Romans have on all of them.

 

[satam55]

TBH I never really saw Brits claiming Ancient Greece like that. We didn't even study it in school. We studied Ancient Egypt, Rome, Victorians, WWI/WWII, Tudors, Norman Conquest etc.

I noticed American cacs love to talk about Rome and Ancient Greece. They create this overarching theme of ''whiteness'' which doesn't exist in Europe. It's always hilarious to see Americans of Polish descent bragging about Rome and shyt lol. Ignorance.

In reality most Europeans claim and brag about their own history.

Next time a cac talks shyt ask him what his ethnic background is and tell him to brag about Lithuania

this is true. In France, almost every movie and animation involving ancient Egyptians has a black cast.

Just shows you how racist this country is.

 

[mbewane]

I believe breh is half white

I am, African-European (Belgian-Centralafrican). So I recognize bullshyt from both sides, and I see everyday here that brehs have misconceptions about both continents.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

As I said, I think you don't know much more about Europe than White Americans, who are the ones doing Spartan 300. As other threads I've read about Europe on the coli, this has noting to do with reality of Europe, and Americans (White and Black) keep projecting their insecurities, frustations, aspirations...on a fantasized "Europe" that doesn't exist in the facts. The whole basis of this thread is the false american assumption that all Europeans "claim" Ancient Greece, which just isn't true. I don't know why that's so hard for you to understand

At no point did I deny that White people misportray Egypt. I said Egypt is North-East Africa. Notice I say "North-East AFRICA". I don't care what "cacs" say it was, and if you do (as it seems), that's your problem, not mine.

My head is far from buried, that's precisely why I can point out factuals errors in this thread. It serves no purpose to correct bullshyt by saying bullshyt.

I see we are going in circles, I think you may have some reading comprehension issues. So I'm going to make this simple.

Do cacs claim Roman and Greek civilisation as a white/european accomplishment?

Do cacs claim the inventions of said empires, as euroepan/white accomplishments?

After you answer...I will provide you with books by cacs stating otherwise. Perhaps a few quotes from a few famous leaders as well......

 

[mbewane]

I see we are going in circles, I think you may have some reading comprehension issues. So I'm going to make this simple.

Do cacs claim Roman and Greek civilisation as a white/european accomplishment?

Do cacs claim the inventions of said empires, as euroepan/white accomplishments?

After you answer...I will provide you with books by cacs stating otherwise. Perhaps a few quotes from a few famous leaders as well......

Don't bother, when brehs stoop to ad hominems I'm done

 

[ChatGPT-5]

Don't bother, when brehs stoop to ad hominems I'm done

Good, because those quotes were loaded and ready. So I go back to my original post.

Let's not pretend like cacs don't boast Greek and Rome inventions as European/White inventions. When does the mainstream mention Egyptian inventions as the black races accomplishment? All of a sudden it's not black nor african, it's specifically Egyptian. You can bury your head in the sand, but the proof is there.

 

[mbewane]

It depends on the part of European you are alluding to. Western Europeans do claim the Romans cuz they were civilized by the Romans and most of them still have elements of Romans in their population and the primary languages they speak have origins in Roman Latin. The only outliers are the Celts in Ireland and Scotland (the Celts in France were colonized by the Romans as well) were the Romans couldn't defeat. And even when the Germanic tribes (vandals/barbarians) - vikings, Normans, Angles, Saxons etc. - from Northern Europe migrated down South and destroyed Rome, they never touched the civilization, they left everything intact and assimilated into. So, they have no other choice than to claim the Romans.

As for Greece, they do claim Greece albeit not as much as they claim Romans cuz they're all still the house/civilization Rome built. Also, without the Spartans defeating the Persians - the history of Europe would be different today, hence they claim Greece as well.

To understand Europe, you have to divide the continent into four:

1). Western Europe (from the British Isle to Central Europe): overwhelmingly Germanic, Celts, Romans etc.

2). Eastern Europe: overwhelmingly Slavs and other minor tribes.

3). Northern Europe (Scandinavia): Germanic, Slavic, and other minor tribes.

4). Southern Europe (what used to be Iberian peninsula): a lot of admixture with Africans

Even the Slavs subtly claim Rome cuz their Orthodox Church is one of Rome's offspring. And the fact that Roman Catholic is still very big in Europe shows the influence the Romans have on all of them.

Yep, that's roughly how you could divide Europe to understand it.

Not sure about the Slavs subtly claiming Rome though, because the divide between the Roman Catholic and the Orthodox Church was conflictual if I'm not mistaken, nor about the Roman Catholic church holding much weight in Europe...not in Belgium, France, really doubt it does in the Netherlands, Germany...for sure it does in Poland and Italy (not that much among the youth though in Italy). Also for example Czech Republic was one of the most atheist countries in the world a couple years ago...obviously communism had a hand in that.

South-Eastern Europe is also particular, what with the direct influx of Romans in Romania (hence the name of the country) while also having Slavs and the Ottoman Empire (same for the Balkans). That's why you have a majority of Muslims in Albania or in Bosnia-Herzegovinia for example. So it's "Eastern" but not the same "Eastern" as say Poland or the Czech Republic.