c00ns getting Dr. Umar stripped of his psychology credentials...

[Booker T Garvey]

I mean...like that whole 90s era of Black nationalism is dead.

It's about the Left and socialism and being inclusive...so yeah it's about that Black Panther wave...it's gonna be hard for you right wing Black nationalist brehs...

Yall just might gotta kick it with Sa Neter and them...

^^^^ you just made my argument for me. If new black america is rejecting "right wing black nationalism" (because we promote heterosexual unions with black women)

then I'll move right along. It's not the end of the world fam.

all of this shyt about him being a con-man and all of that, I've got not control over - if he got locked up tomorrow for conning, I'd have to eat that

but again, for the 5th time - I like being represented on the national platform just like you cats do

you all have van jones, coates, roland martin etc etc...I can't have representation?

is somebody gonna answer that question at least?

 

[An ashy lil fap hand]

Can somebody put me up to speed on how Umar is a fraud?

I wouldn't even call him a fraud. But apparently he got donations for a school that he planned to build, and no sign of a school in sight. Personally, I disagree with a couple of his talking points. The man reason this is an L is because he went out of his way to TELL people to check his credentials. And now he's praying about the aftermath and leaving social media. lol.

 

[AlainLocke]

I was just talking to my pops about this today. I'm trying to open a business so I can hire some of my family but they're acting like I need to have a chain of businesses before they wanna fukk with me.

If I'm not rolling up to them with millions, they don't give a fukk about what I'm doing.

Like how the fukk do you give back to these people?

No no no no...

See this is where we got it all wrong.

Do shyt for you.

What happened to just doing shyt for you and enjoying the fruits of your labor and if it is in your heart to be all community oriented and shyt then do that.

And the whole point of a business is to make money...if you making a business with some type of altruistic motive then you already fukking up.

Man open your business and say fukk all that hiring family shyt.

 

[richaveli83]

I met Umar years ago. This was before he got famous. He was a cool dude and chopped it up with us after his lecture. Although I don't agree with everything he says and he needs to give legit updates about the school it's messed up with what's going on right now.

 

[Dzali OG]

No sweat, time for him to walk that talk.

See it's like I've been telling you nikkas, IT'S THEIR shyt!!!

The conundrum many blacks can't get over: Don't want to fukk with the cracka, but gives full acknowledgment and respect to his institutions.

You can't half-ass, if it's fukk crackas then it's fukk crackas. It's fukk his ENTIRE system.

At the most you take their education and improve on that with your black community.

Even in this thread, you have professionals taunting other black people, "If you're not a professional like me stfu...". Some of them fake or sincerely mean black empowerment, but you can't beat the devil in his house.

White supremacy is systemic, they covered their bases. How dumb would they look allowing people against white supremacy to utilize their tools to take them down? Just as the internet is about to be modified big time! They're not going allow is to shoot them with their gun lol.

 

[George's Dilemma]

Luckily for every Umar there are 3 Antonio Moore's ready to take his place. We need folks that are interested in making tangible differences. People who use data like Yvette Carnell to bolster her points....rather than the storytelling Umar likes to do.

I can't trust a liar ever.

The fact that we say things like we "need" someone is indicative of why we already lost collectively. I hope I die before ever looking at any internet activist as someone we "need." I might agree with a Tariq, or an Umar, or Boyce , whomever occasionally, but I don't "need" any of them. Black people stay looking for a supreme leader, or a representative. Too many of us are stans instead to individuals who make sh!t happen. Stop looking for someone to tell you what to do and what you want to hear and instead do it yourself and challenge yourself. Hate this internet celebrity millennial worshipping generation.

 

[scarlxrd]

No no no no...

See this is where we got it all wrong.

Do shyt for you.

What happened to just doing shyt for you and enjoying the fruits of your labor and if it is in your heart to be all community oriented and shyt then do that.

And the whole point of a business is to make money...if you making a business with some type of altruistic motive then you already fukking up.

Man open your business and say fukk all that hiring family shyt.

Breh Real shyt, I realize that now.

I have all the shyt lined up but I wanted to get them involved but fukk that.

The talk I had today showed me they didn't want nothing to do with building for themselves.

They couldn't even explain what they were doing their 9-to-5 for. Can't even imagine working with no real direction like that

But I digress... you're right. I'm doing the shyt for me and my wife.

 

[Dzali OG]

No no no no...

See this is where we got it all wrong.

Do shyt for you.

What happened to just doing shyt for you and enjoying the fruits of your labor and if it is in your heart to be all community oriented and shyt then do that.

And the whole point of a business is to make money...if you making a business with some type of altruistic motive then you already fukking up.

Man open your business and say fukk all that hiring family shyt.

This is the cac way of living. We're losing right now because we continue to try and live like cacs.

 

[ba'al]

1) somebody already posted the evidence that he has a doctorate...if he's not allowed to PRACTICE, that's different. but the man is technically a DOCTOR.
https://www.theroot.com/i-was-wrong-his-name-is-doctor-umar-johnson-1797016800

2) Again, I'll say this as many times as need be - I'm not here to defend dr umar the man, but what he promotes is directly aligned with my beliefs
it's important that I have my opinions, ideals, beliefs, and ideology out there, I like to be represented just like you all like being represented by Obama and Don Lemon

Exactly I don't think you can get through to these dudes and it's crazy you remember back in the 90s a lot of black activists and scholars either end going MIA or was thrown into prison on a lot of fault charges? I feel like that's happening again Tariq had said the feds had came to his house one day asking questions.

 

[SleezyBigSlim]

Wait.

If he went to the school.

Completed the program.

Passed the tests.

Earned his degree.

How can he be "stripped" just because people THINK he's a fraud?

And only the state government can revoke your degree/credentials and that's usually done if you've committed a crime. There's no crime here. The only thing that can jam him up is if he's being fugazy with them donations.

 

[AlainLocke]

^^^^ you just made my argument for me. If new black america is rejecting "right wing black nationalism" (because we promote heterosexual unions with black women)

then I'll move right along. It's not the end of the world fam.

all of this shyt about him being a con-man and all of that, I've got not control over - if he got locked up tomorrow for conning, I'd have to eat that

but again, for the 5th time - I like being represented on the national platform just like you cats do

you all have van jones, coates, roland martin etc etc...I can't have representation?

is somebody gonna answer that question at least?

I mean...we tend to promote ideas that have merit...

Or controversial...that would make people watch out of shock...

Maybe right-wing Black nationalism isn't represented because it's no longer useful. I mean we still seeing Farrakhan trotted out there like come breh, where is the new guard at? Where are the new ideas?

Black socialism isn't represented either...but we have the Left in general making a comeback...

But the right-wing is coming back also...as a reaction to the way things are...

Why not hook up with them Black red-pill dudes...

I mean I don't know why there is a Black right-wing...what is there to conserve or restore?

 

[laughslikebig]

I wouldn't even call him a fraud. But apparently he got donations for a school that he planned to build, and no sign of a school in sight. Personally, I disagree with a couple of his talking points. The man reason this is an L is because he went out of his way to TELL people to check his credentials. And now he's praying about the aftermath and leaving social media. lol.

When he told us about the school (i went to hear him speak in BK) it seemed as if it would basically be hios lifes work.

Doing a google... he has 400k for the school. A teacher with tenure makes 80k, so he basically had enough money to hire 4 teachers. If we're being simple about it. 400k aint shyt to build a school without govt involvement. So I dont think its fare to press son. Thats a big undertaking.

If he was driving a Porsche, or had a Mansion then yeah... but i don't see nikkas go hard at these Pastors of Mega CHurches. So this aint right.

If we want to nitpick, we can talk about how Garvey stole funds and even killed a man in his office for questioning him. Nobody says fukk Garvey tho
He murdered another black man... people still rode for him.

MLK plagerized his dissertation to become a doctor. I dont see people say fukk MLK.

So i think this Umar shyt seems like some new black hatery. Sad, but blacks are beyond repair and have swallowed the kool aid, ten fold.

 

[AlainLocke]

Breh Real shyt, I realize that now.

I have all the shyt lined up but I wanted to get them involved but fukk that.

The talk I had today showed me they didn't want nothing to do with building for themselves.

They couldn't even explain what they were doing their 9-to-5 for. Can't even imagine working with no real direction like that

But I digress... you're right. I'm doing the shyt for me and my wife.

You and wife is all that matters breh...

Good luck on your endeavors...

 

[fairfax12]

The fact that we say things like we "need" someone is indicative of why we already lost collectively. I hope I die before ever looking at any internet activist as someone we "need." I might agree with a Tariq, or an Umar, or Boyce , whomever occasionally, but I don't "need" any of them. Black people stay looking for a supreme leader, or a representative. Too many of us are stans instead to individuals who make sh!t happen. Stop looking for someone to tell you what to do and what you want to hear and instead do it yourself and challenge yourself. Hate this internet celebrity millennial worshipping generation.

I say 'we need' because someone has to front the capital to get a movement started. Someone has to be willing to organize and mobilize people. Not everyone is up to that. I don't trust everyone to handle those pressures or to have integrity in situations. We do need leaders. I absolutely believe in an idea of the Talented Tenth......which is a term coined over 100 years ago by a man who had never used a computer. I get what you're saying....but I think you're conflating celeb worship with a need for practical, responsible faces and movers.

 

[Kings County]

It’s impossible for him to lose his degree or academic credentials. Not only is it Immoral and Unethical it’s illegal. As much as people went after Bill Cosby, Temple University couldn’t take away his degree. If Umar is losing his “credentials” he has a lot of explaining to do. Even the university of Phoenix couldn’t pull this off.

Somebody is lying.

nah the shyt he be talking too real they're gonna say he's using his psych license to lie to the public
he preaches black power they gon say its hate and get him stripped nikkas in philly should be there to show support