c00ns getting Dr. Umar stripped of his psychology credentials...

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I mean...we tend to promote ideas that have merit...

Or controversial...that would make people watch out of shock...

Maybe right-wing Black nationalism isn't represented because it's no longer useful. I mean we still seeing Farrakhan trotted out there like come breh, where is the new guard at? Where are the new ideas?

Black socialism isn't represented either...but we have the Left in general making a comeback...

But the right-wing is coming back also...as a reaction to the way things are...

Why not hook up with them Black red-pill dudes...

I mean I don't know why there is a Black right-wing...what is there to conserve or restore?

i just said I may consider being a republican :gucci:
why are you repeating my own talking points back to me?


but the way people are frothing at the mouth over diddy and lavar ball
that's old school black nationalism.


 

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No you dumb fukk...you mentioned the University of Pheonix you herb.

fukk outta here.

YOU said that.

You’re such an idiot it’s sad. None of what you said validated your stupid point that Bill Cosby doesn’t have his PHD.

And I said University of Phoenix because the school that umar went to is similar in reputation.

Maybe I’ll translate it for you so you can understand.

तुम उदास हो, यह उदास है। आपने जो भी कहा, वह कोई भी मूर्खतापूर्ण बिंदु नहीं है कि विधेयक कोस्बी की पीएचडी नहीं है।

और मैंने फीनिक्स विश्वविद्यालय को कहा था क्योंकि उस विद्यालय ने उस स्कूल को जाना था जो प्रतिष्ठा में समान है

:umad: गूंगा कुतिया
 

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I say 'we need' because someone has to front the capital to get a movement started. Someone has to be willing to organize and mobilize people. Not everyone is up to that. I don't trust everyone to handle those pressures or to have integrity in situations. We do need leaders. I absolutely believe in an idea of the Talented Tenth......which is a term coined over 100 years ago by a man who had never used a computer. I get what you're saying....but I think you're conflating celeb worship with a need for practical, responsible faces and movers.


You know that WEB Dubois rejected the Talented Tenth idea...

And no we don't need a group of supreme leaders to rule over us...
 

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i just said I may consider being a republican :gucci:
why are you repeating my own talking points back to me?


but the way people are frothing at the mouth over diddy and lavar ball
that's old school black nationalism.

But...Black people aren't Republican...so you just willing to be even further away from the current political trends...

And the older crowd that grew up with Diddy and the GenXers that grew up under a Farrakhan/Hip Hop...yeah...they go crazy over them...but that's celebrity worship...they are used to that...
 

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You know that WEB Dubois rejected the Talented Tenth idea...

And no we don't need a group of supreme leaders to rule over us...
Why are you putting words in my mouth. I never said anyone was ruling over us. Everyone is good at different things. Some folks are introverts and would make the Operations hum, others feed off of energy of others and would do well at influencing and moving people to action. There is no shame in recognizing our own specific god given talents. If we are all on the same page that is...

I did not know he rejected it I guess I'll do my own research but I do know he was a practical guy who was a Statistician at heart somewhat and he realized there's a numbers game to this whole thing. There can't be 500 different people talking at once.
 

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and like i said in that other thread about Umar: al sharpton and jesse jackson have 0 credentials
and ran up a check off our black asses for 30 years while we died, caught aids, shot each other up, the fathers left the homes

any discussion about his PHD and looking it all up and calling his old colleges

is strictly out of frustration and anger; if he says black men should only date BLACK women:
Leftist Negroes: "oh hell!! who is he!! WTF!? I love who i love!! is that even a doctor!!"

if he says black rappers are agents that promote destruction and death at our communities own peril:
Leftis Negroes: "oh WTF!! who the fukk is HE!? what does HE listen to!! is he even a doctor, let me look!!"

if malcolm were alive today they'd do him the same way

"what, he learned all that in prison!! didn't he use to be a pimp!! let me post his mugshot!! he use to be detroit red!!"
 
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You’re such an idiot it’s sad. None of what you said validated your stupid point that Bill Cosby doesn’t have his PHD.

And I said University of Phoenix because the school that umar went to is similar in reputation.

Maybe I’ll translate it for you so you can understand.

तुम उदास हो, यह उदास है। आपने जो भी कहा, वह कोई भी मूर्खतापूर्ण बिंदु नहीं है कि विधेयक कोस्बी की पीएचडी नहीं है।

और मैंने फीनिक्स विश्वविद्यालय को कहा था क्योंकि उस विद्यालय ने उस स्कूल को जाना था जो प्रतिष्ठा में समान है

:umad: गूंगा कुतिया
I'm not hindu. Or Indian.

And you mentioning some honorary degrees deflates your bullshyt point

The school Umar went to is NOT in similar stature. He got his degree from PCOM.
 

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Why are you putting words in my mouth. I never said anyone was ruling over us. Everyone is good at different things. Some folks are introverts and would make the Operations hum, others feed off of energy of others and would do well at influencing and moving people to action. There is no shame in recognizing our own specific god given talents. If we are all on the same page that is...

I did not know he rejected it I guess I'll do my own research but I do know he was a practical guy who was a Statistician at heart somewhat and he realized there's a numbers game to this whole thing. There can't be 500 different people talking at once.

The Talented Tenth theory or idea is not about Black people utilizing their natural talents.

The Talented Tenth theory or idea is about a group of Black people that will become the elites of Black society and supposed to progress Black people forward into White society mainstream society.

It is important to note that White liberals came up with this and WEB Dubois popularized it in an essay in the collection of essays called the Negro Problem. White liberals wanted to create colleges in the South to create this class of Black people while Southern Whites wanted to create a bunch of Black laborers.

WEB Dubois eventually rejected the Talented Teth idea because it never came to fruition. Elite Blacks and he was one of them, just enriched themselves. Anyway, long story short, he died as a socialist and an exile in Ghana.

So yeah, the Talented Tenth thing is about having supreme leaders of Black people.
 

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and like i said in that other thread about Umar: al sharpton and jesse jackson have 0 credentials
and ran up a check off our black asses for 30 years while we died, caught aids, shot each other up, the fathers left the homes

any discussion about his PHD and looking it all up and calling his old colleges

is strictly out of frustration and anger; if he says black men should only date white women:
Leftist Negroes: "oh hell!! who is he!! WTF!? I love who i love!! is that even a doctor!!"

if he says black rappers are agents that promote destruction and death at our communities own peril:
Leftis Negroes: "oh WTF!! who the fukk is HE!? what does HE listen to!! is he even a doctor, let me look!!"

if malcolm were alive today they'd do him the same way

"what, he learned all that in prison!! didn't he use to be a pimp!! let me post his mugshot!! he use to be detroit red!!"

Ironically the people who are responsible for this started paying attention to Umar because of his refusal to show his degree.
 

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Remember how 50 Cent clowned Ja Rule for singing, ethered him..and then turned around and used the EXACT same singing chorus formula that Murder Inc used?

Young people don't attend old school houses of worship, but they are following youtube celebs and podcasts as religiously as their parents attended service.

Same soup, just reheated.

I posted this in the "Willie D asks why are young people leaving the church" thread.
For those that disagreed, read this thread. If you grew up in the church and saw pastor drama, do you hear familiar arguments being written here? I do.


Sweet old Black grandmother, pillar of the community, but come for her pastor, for ANY reason, and IT'S ON.
 

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When he told us about the school (i went to hear him speak in BK) it seemed as if it would basically be hios lifes work.

Doing a google... he has 400k for the school. A teacher with tenure makes 80k, so he basically had enough money to hire 4 teachers. If we're being simple about it. 400k aint shyt to build a school without govt involvement. So I dont think its fare to press son. Thats a big undertaking.

If he was driving a Porsche, or had a Mansion then yeah... but i don't see nikkas go hard at these Pastors of Mega CHurches. So this aint right.

If we want to nitpick, we can talk about how Garvey stole funds and even killed a man in his office for questioning him. Nobody says fukk Garvey tho
He murdered another black man... people still rode for him.

MLK plagerized his dissertation to become a doctor. I dont see people say fukk MLK.


So i think this Umar shyt seems like some new black hatery. Sad, but blacks are beyond repair and have swallowed the kool aid, ten fold.

Garvey didn't steal any money, and if he did kill a c00n then good. That means that it wasn't all talk with him, that he was fully dedicated, and he shoulda killed 100 more! Ain't nothing peaceful about coming to power. Quit spreading lies about that man.
 
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