These are great points.We're not saying different things. I'm just saying the dudes who used to be there to pick up the pieces for the fat women, baby mamas, attitude queens...they're just not going to be there in the future. Do you have male cousins, brothers, etc., below the age of 25? They are not interested in saving hoes or playing Disney prince. I'm in my 30s and dudes in our generation were still raised that way. That shyt is done with as far as I can tell.
The "manosphere" isn't something that you have to dwell in to get it's concepts. You can just come and take your red pill and move on. There's shyt that modern women do that brehs aren't cool with. That can lead to women changing or a continued decline of marriage as an institution and a plunging birthrate. The entire Western world is heading the latter way and that's why government is starting to get involved. Societies inch towards insolvency as populations age. And populations age when people aren't getting married and aren't having kids.
I think you do underestimate the number of women who look at modern feminism as just a trap to be corporate cog as well. Women are understanding how soul crushing Corporate America and all the bullshyt is. If hitting the gym, being pleasant, and not having a crazy body count is what gets you a life of relative leisure, best believe women are going to start seeing that as a more viable option than corporate BS. Most dudes would choose that in a heartbeat if it were an option for them. Pause.
You're also missing the fact that men vote. How do you think things would change if Onlyfans, Seeking Arrangement, Child/Maternal welfare and all these other economic stand-ins for stable yet boring men went away? shyt would change quickly, don't get it twisted.
Look at the male drift rightward in non-white demographics. Where this is going is staring you right in the face.
The only caveat is that many of us have seen women who marry into those situations thinking that things are cool, and the marriages eventually turned abusive, or they were left for another woman, or the man cheated. Especially if you’re dealing with a highly successful man.
That’s why having an education and career as a backup is important.
Ask any good dude who has a daughter and he’ll tell you that he wants her to be self-sufficient so that her livelihood/survival isn’t in the hands of another person.
Now- some women might pair a bad attitude with that education/career, and that’s a mistake. Some women may align themselves with a man who cannot fully provide/at least contribute half and they may develop an attitude because of that.
But yea, if you have your look and attitude together and pick a good guy at the appropriate time you can hopefully have a happy, healthy lifelong marriage and be a stay at home wife.
I know what I’d prefer