While you are correct in Bahamian migaration to SoFla being a thing for over 150yrs, we need to be careful not to discount AA history and cultural influence in SoFla and everything AA's brought to the game. Bahamians were clearly influenced by AA's. Religiously, linguistically, and there was back and fourth influence cuisine wise. SoFla and Florida as a whole is a great mixture of "similar" sub groups of blacks. AA's from The Piedmont/Low Country-GeechieAA's/Bahamians/Haitian/Jamaican/Other West Indian(Trinidadian, Bajan, Antuigan, etc) all inhabit Florida, and have lived amongst each other for decades. Diffirent cuisines such as "Floribbean Cuisine" have sprang from these clash of cultures.
If it was something positive people would try to diminish the Bahamian role/influence, but because it involves negativity the Bahamian component is being expanded.
Trust me, it would be "the Bahamians were only copying what we were already doing", but now it's "they've been here for over 100 years."
it supports the opinion of just how, non-afram, the florida black population was/could be. So many of the people that are being singled as afram in florida were americanized bahamians and since they had no accent, they wouldn't stand out is the point Im making
we're talking mainly florida and NYC. The 2 areas where afram/haitian/other west indian contact wold most likely occur. There is a video on youtube where a Haitain girl from brooklyn , said every west indian/carib group from trinis, bajans, dominicans, jamaicans etc.... all attacked haitains. She said there was some conspiracy for aframs and all these other groups to link up and bully haitains
and with all that being said, most aframs had no contact with haitians so they had no real opinion of them
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When I mentioned the high% of Caribbean Blacks in 1960s-70s New York in those hip hop origin threads, you dismissed the numbers. Now, the non AA Florida population comes up in thread about newcomers being bullied.
Your point about
some of these countries having negative perception of Haitians pre arrival in America is true, for select countries. Haitians traveled and worked as migrant laborers in DR, Cuba, some parts of the Bahamas. Map of the Caribbean and area surrounding Haiti gives you an idea of countries I'm talking about. Poor Haitians went there , stood out because of language barrier, and occupied lowest rung in society doing the hardest work for the lowest pay. These groups look down on Haitians For the other countries, negative perceptions of Haitians was picked up by encounters or stereotypes here. They assume all Haitians are poor, and that middle class and rich Haitians don't exist.
There are other reasons why Haitian kids were food here in nyc area .......stringent immigration rules for Haitians after a certain point,....dire financial situation back home which means no plan b, kids were under pressure to do well here in ways that only people from
really poor countries could relate to.....didn't speak english or spanish.....didn't have the numbers and didn't have high % of vagabon (yet), they were food for low life elements of other cultures.. All the kids from that era will tell you that they were embraced and accepted into the circles of other cultures that they shared aspirations interests with, though.
That Florida wave was larger, more diverse group of Haitians, higher % of vagabon. Their reaction to encountering some their counterparts here is what we would all expect.
If you believe the last sentence, what perception do you think most people have of Arabs post 911. Even those who have never met a self identified Arab? You think people have "no opinion" about Arabs? Yes, deadliest disease of 20th century was linked to a nationality in early stages of reporting, but people had "no opinion" about Haitians. That's what you're running with?